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Old 03-15-2007, 11:06 AM   #1
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Ejection for multiple crew jet bombers

The B1 has a crew capsule for ejection.

The Vulcan and Victor only had ejection seats for the pilot and co-pilot:


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>>Although the Vulcan had a crew of up to seven, only the pilot and co-pilot were provided with ejector seats. This feature of the Vulcan has been the basis of significant criticism; there were instances of the pilot and co-pilot ejecting in an emergency leaving their colleagues to face death. The navigator plotter, navigator radar and electronics operator could only escape by leaving their seats and escaping out of the cockpit via the entrance door before the pilots had ejected. Their parachutes were opened automatically by static line. This door was situated underneath immediately forward of the front undercarriage and would have been a very tricky exercise if the latter was down at the time. The method of escape was practised regularly, and successfully put into action on more than one occasion, with all crew members surviving, but relied on the absence of g-forces which in other cases made it impossible.<<

Are there any other interesting means of escape or bomber ejection seat stories?
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The B1 has a crew capsule for ejection.
Only on the prototype.
Ejection system that saved B-1B crew is top-notch
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Cool... thanks... I thought they still used the capsule
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Early F111's had a capsule system but later versions went back to having a normal seat.
B52 rear gunners had the rough end of the stick with downward firing ejector seats, not a good idea when you realise that most accidents happen on take off or landing. Early F104's also had downward firing seats.
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Early F111's had a capsule system but later versions went back to having a normal seat.
B52 rear gunners had the rough end of the stick with downward firing ejector seats, not a good idea when you realise that most accidents happen on take off or landing. Early F104's also had downward firing seats.
Do u have any idea what the min. altitude of a safe fireing of a downward ejection was (is)?
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Do u have any idea what the min. altitude of a safe fireing of a downward ejection was (is)?
I'm not sure of the height req'd but was told about the USAF guy who rolled it 90 degrees on take off and ejected unsucessfully sideways
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Yikes. Wonder why the bottom-firing seats were ever used because of take off and landing dangers.
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Do u have any idea what the min. altitude of a safe fireing of a downward ejection was (is)?
No idea I'm afraid
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No idea I'm afraid
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http://www.ejectionsite.com/
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downward ejection seats

on B-52's the gunner did not eject downward. On B-52A thru F models the gunner was in the rear of the plane. To eject he had a lever that would fire explosive bolts and the rear of the acft (basically the turret and everything aft of his seat would fall of the plane). The gunner was supposed to grab onto the turret control handles and let the aft end pull him out with it. On B-52G & H models the gunner was located in the forward crew compartment and ejected upwards. On the lower deck of all models the navigator and radar navigator ejected downwards.
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My mistake, thanks for the info
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