For facebook users... - Aircraft of World War II

MacArther · 08-02-2009, 12:43 AM

Ok, the title sounds odd for this area, but the point is that on Facebook there is a group called "Soldiers are Not Heroes". Currently, there is a group trying to get the first mentioned group removed or banned from Facebook. What are your thoughts on this? Personally, I'm ok with removing the group because they are implying some pretty bad stuff about our troops.

GrauGeist · 08-02-2009, 01:32 AM

Hi MacAurthur,

There's quite a number of us over at facebook...and a portion of them (myself included) have joined the petition group to have those idiots removed.

I'm not sure if the people that started the "Soldiers are not Heros" group were serious, or just looking for shock value, but they seem like young, bored school kids to me.

Either way, I think it's wrong to even joke about putting down men and women who serve. And not just here in the U.S., but all nations. These people put thier lives on the lines for their country and deserve respect.

Crunch · 08-02-2009, 05:54 AM

I know of both groups, and agree with GrauGeist about them seeming like a bunch of school kids stirring ****.

But Facebook won't remove it, it's creating hits and populous for the website, and that's what it's all about.

ccheese · 08-02-2009, 09:07 AM

I only joined Facebook because the forum was down for over a week. I do not go up there unless I have to, so I'm
not privy to the goings on. I have heard of the group who is stirring up the crap about our military. Everyone has
and opinion..... and you know what they say about opinions....

Charles

evangilder · 08-02-2009, 10:01 AM

Every person that clicks the link to see the group adds another hit. There is the old saying that there is no such thing as bad press. As long as they keep getting hits, it makes them look popular. Like other idiots in the cross section of America, and elsewhere, just ignore them and they will go away when they realize they are not getting attention.

comiso90 · 08-02-2009, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evangilder

Every person that clicks the link to see the group adds another hit. There is the old saying that there is no such thing as bad press. As long as they keep getting hits, it makes them look popular. Like other idiots in the cross section of America, and elsewhere, just ignore them and they will go away when they realize they are not getting attention.

Exactly!... want to make money on the internet? EASY... generate traffic and sell ads.. the same people probably created a counter page "The Soldiers are our Heroes" and place ads on both... and when you petition against them, FB gleens demographic/psychographic information from you based on your FaceBook profile.

Dont give them the attention they want. IMO, use FB for connecting with friends and nothing else.

Every time on FB you "join a cause", play a game, take a quiz, or become a fan, the info is used by marketers to get in your brain.

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DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-02-2009, 11:17 AM

I am on facebook and I just ignore them. They are not worth my time. Besides as Eric has pointed out that is what they want. They want you to click on it and bring that "hit". It is making facebook money.

FLYBOYJ · 08-02-2009, 11:26 AM

Agree - just ignore them untill you meet one face-to-face then you could kick the living sh!t out of them.

drgondog · 08-02-2009, 12:20 PM

agree - ignore is the best revenge and Facebook doesn't really care unless a group hurts them more than they help.

ToughOmbre · 08-02-2009, 12:52 PM

Agree with the rest, IGNORE them!

And like Joe said, someday you might get lucky and get the chance to punch one of them in the face.

TO

evangilder · 08-02-2009, 01:19 PM

The only problem is punching bozos like that in the face is highly habit forming.

GrauGeist · 08-02-2009, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evangilder

The only problem is punching bozos like that in the face is highly habit forming.

But highly gratifying!

wheelsup_cavu · 08-02-2009, 05:18 PM

It's sad to hear this news.
The same people who give them the opportunity to be the idiots they are are the ones they are defaming.

Wheels

Civettone · 08-02-2009, 05:48 PM

well if the message is that it's not ok to glorify the military then I'm all for it. I mean ... I don't regard Iraqi, North Korean or Rwandese soldiers are heroes you know?

and then there's free speech I suppose. I joined the "i'm glad michael jackson is finally dead" group. Also suppose many will want that group removed.

Kris

BombTaxi · 08-02-2009, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelsup_cavu

It's sad to hear this news.
The same people who give them the opportunity to be the idiots they are are the ones they are defaming.

Wheels

This and civvetone's post make a valid point. I think these people are idiots, and I completely disagree with thier point of view. But freedom of speech and expression are cornerstones of western democracy, and western democracy is one of the things we are fighting to establish (or to establish the right conditions for ) in Afghanistan. If we do not uphold those traditions at home, there is no point at all in our troops dying in a bid to export them. I remember once seeing an interview on the BBC news channel with a soldier just returned from Iraq who was asked how he felt about being greeted by anti-war protestors. He replied that he did not mind - he was out there to promote and protect their rights and freedoms, and if they were there protesting, he had done his job right. It is one of the most thought-provoking and insightful things I have ever heard said.

08-02-2009, 12:43 AM	#1
MacArther Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 890	For facebook users... Ok, the title sounds odd for this area, but the point is that on Facebook there is a group called "Soldiers are Not Heroes". Currently, there is a group trying to get the first mentioned group removed or banned from Facebook. What are your thoughts on this? Personally, I'm ok with removing the group because they are implying some pretty bad stuff about our troops. __________________ http://www.fictionpress.com/u/478009/ Hillary 2012: The world has to end sometime!

08-02-2009, 01:32 AM	#2
GrauGeist Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Redding, California Posts: 3,952	Hi MacAurthur, There's quite a number of us over at facebook...and a portion of them (myself included) have joined the petition group to have those idiots removed. I'm not sure if the people that started the "Soldiers are not Heros" group were serious, or just looking for shock value, but they seem like young, bored school kids to me. Either way, I think it's wrong to even joke about putting down men and women who serve. And not just here in the U.S., but all nations. These people put thier lives on the lines for their country and deserve respect. __________________ "Look back over the past, with its changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future." - Marcus Aurelius, Emperor of Rome > I Support Doug Gillis <

08-02-2009, 05:54 AM	#3
Crunch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central Coast, NSW, Australia Posts: 355	I know of both groups, and agree with GrauGeist about them seeming like a bunch of school kids stirring ****. But Facebook won't remove it, it's creating hits and populous for the website, and that's what it's all about. __________________ In the build; 1/72 Hurricane IIc -DONE!- Click here! 1/72 Do28 Skyservant - Decal stage 1/72 Do17 - Underway 1/72 Sarvioa Marchetti SM 79 - In the box still 1/72 RAAF DHC4 Caribou - In the box still

08-02-2009, 09:07 AM	#4
ccheese Older Than Dirt Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 7,944	I only joined Facebook because the forum was down for over a week. I do not go up there unless I have to, so I'm not privy to the goings on. I have heard of the group who is stirring up the crap about our military. Everyone has and opinion..... and you know what they say about opinions.... Charles __________________ Good people sleep peacefully in their beds at night, only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." George Orwell

08-02-2009, 10:01 AM	#5
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 15,387	Every person that clicks the link to see the group adds another hit. There is the old saying that there is no such thing as bad press. As long as they keep getting hits, it makes them look popular. Like other idiots in the cross section of America, and elsewhere, just ignore them and they will go away when they realize they are not getting attention. __________________ For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

08-02-2009, 11:17 AM	#7
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 34,025	I am on facebook and I just ignore them. They are not worth my time. Besides as Eric has pointed out that is what they want. They want you to click on it and bring that "hit". It is making facebook money. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

08-02-2009, 11:26 AM	#8
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,759	Agree - just ignore them untill you meet one face-to-face then you could kick the living sh!t out of them. __________________ > I Support Doug Gillis <

08-02-2009, 12:20 PM	#9
drgondog Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: oregon Posts: 4,162	agree - ignore is the best revenge and Facebook doesn't really care unless a group hurts them more than they help.

08-02-2009, 12:52 PM	#10
ToughOmbre Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 3,484	Agree with the rest, IGNORE them! And like Joe said, someday you might get lucky and get the chance to punch one of them in the face. TO __________________ *“Let's get Enterprise* and Hornet turned into the wind."**

08-02-2009, 01:19 PM	#11
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 15,387	The only problem is punching bozos like that in the face is highly habit forming. __________________ For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

08-02-2009, 05:18 PM	#13
wheelsup_cavu Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Corona, California Posts: 2,390	It's sad to hear this news. The same people who give them the opportunity to be the idiots they are are the ones they are defaming. Wheels __________________ Cheers Wheelsup_cavu Wheels's Photos - Time lapse build of an F/A-18 Super Hornet - Lock N' Load

08-02-2009, 05:48 PM	#14
Civettone Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Limburg Posts: 1,299	well if the message is that it's not ok to glorify the military then I'm all for it. I mean ... I don't regard Iraqi, North Korean or Rwandese soldiers are heroes you know? and then there's free speech I suppose. I joined the "i'm glad michael jackson is finally dead" group. Also suppose many will want that group removed. Kris __________________

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