 | FMA IA-58 Pucara COIN aircraft.| Modern Discuss FMA IA-58 Pucara COIN aircraft. in the Other Eras forums; Great Pics. For my money I still like the look of the Pucara.
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Great Pics. For my money I still like the look of the Pucara.
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The "meaner" looking pucara was definately the IA-58C variant.
In this film still the Charlie is taking off with a laser guided missile, no idea what was the name of that.  
Close up to the nose, the protruding barrel belongs to a 30 mm DEFA 553 revolver gun, this shoot about 1800rpm. One of the starbord 7,62mm MG was deleted in order to acomodate the French weapon. 
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Country:  | In Regard to the IA-58 and particularly the IA-66, was there ever any consideration given to using the Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-68C engines? | |
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No really, at list there is no official account of that.
I agree that the astazous are the main drawback of this aircraft.  
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Country: | It looks like second War warbird because it have a flat, armored glass windshield like the fighters in the good old days of the ww2.  
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Country: | Yeah, but so did the A-4. No, I think it looks familiar for other reasons. Perhaps it is the straight stiles of the armoured wind screen.
Oh. And 1800rds/min? For a 30mm?? Is it a chain gun? I can't fathom a firing rate that high for a single barrel cannon.
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Oh. And 1800rds/min? For a 30mm?? Is it a chain gun? I can't fathom a firing rate that high for a single barrel cannon.
| It is a revolver gun actually, the chain guns are not the fastest one. 
I was checking other sources and they said 1100-1300 rpm for the Defa 552, 1300-1500 for the Defa 553 and 1800 for the Defa 554.
I dont remember if the IA-58C used a 553 or a 554 model.
Actually GIAT manufactured today canon named M7981 and it is also single barrel, 7 chamber revolver gun and it fires at...2500 rpm. 
It is used in the Dassault Rafale. 
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Hypothetical Canadianized Super Pucara, dubbed 'CA-58' with the PT6A-68C engines and a air-to-air refueling node (to make the aircraft somewhat self-deployable over long distances).  | |
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Originally Posted by Matt308  Love the cockpit of that bird, CB. The canopy looks familiar. Looks very... WWII. Anyone? | Reminds me of an Apache helicopter or maybe an ME 410
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Originally Posted by Glider How about the Huey Cobra | yeah... i meant cobra......
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Originally Posted by 0311Matt Hypothetical Canadianized Super Pucara, dubbed 'CA-58' with the PT6A-68C engines and a air-to-air refueling node (to make the aircraft somewhat self-deployable over long distances). | Hehe, very good one. I never tough a Puca with flight in refueling. 
And what is the armament ??  
Actually the maximum range of the IA-58 is not bad, about 3000 km, but of course just with maximum fuel and not external bombs/rocket/missiles.
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