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12-10-2006, 04:45 PM
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Country:  | The air corp used the Fouga magister in the ground attack role , a nice little aircraft.Obviously not in the same league as the A-10 or Harrier.We use the PC-9 now mostly as an advanced trainer.We can only look on in envy at other air forces equitment. | 
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12-10-2006, 05:27 PM
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Country:  | So what you are saying Evanguilder is that the A-10 is like a modern B-17 Flying Fortress? It can take a massive amount of damage and still keep on flying... | |
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12-12-2006, 09:17 AM
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Country:  | I think the A-10. becasue the A-10 is very tough, manuverable, heavy armerment, armor for the pilot, serprated back up systems in differant routes in the airframe. it may be slow but it can take a hell of alot more then an A-4 if it was hit
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12-12-2006, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by HealzDevo  So what you are saying Evanguilder is that the A-10 is like a modern B-17 Flying Fortress? It can take a massive amount of damage and still keep on flying... | The A-10 can take massive amounts of damage and still get her pilot home. There were A-10s in the first Gulf War that had great big sections of both wings gone and she still flew without a problem. She is a flying tank.
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12-12-2006, 11:15 AM
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Country: | I think most of you recall this little event...one of my tech reps in Baghdad was able
to snap a dozen shots of this A-10. I recal the pilot was female...?
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12-12-2006, 02:19 PM
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Country: | well the jaguar does have the ability to defend itself, but so does the A-10. i saw a f-16 and an a-10 go at it in a training exercise, and the A-10 beat the f-16, im not sure if anyone will believe me.
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12-12-2006, 02:27 PM
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Country: |  That I would like to see. What was the scenario? Both start with low-E? Guns only? Can't imagine a 16 getting themselves in a position where the A-10 would have a chance. If so, that was a critical mistake.
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12-12-2006, 10:54 PM
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Country:  | A-10 my vote. It is not the newest bird out there but she gets the job done and looks mean and can take a beating.
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12-13-2006, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by HealzDevo So what you are saying Evanguilder is that the A-10 is like a modern B-17 Flying Fortress? It can take a massive amount of damage and still keep on flying... | Yes and no. Yes in the ability to sustain a large amount of damage and make it home. But there is a difference in roles, obviously.
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12-14-2006, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mkloby The Skyraider is frickin awesome. I remember standing there in the museum at P'cola ogling over one for like 45 mins. My wife didn't get it... they never do...
A placard said that the left turning tendencies were so severe that during full power T/O roll rull right rudder was not enough to offset, so the engine was mounted off center. |
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12-14-2006, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by twoeagles Take it from an old Scooter driver, it's the A-4 Skyhawk by a wide margin...
(Unless you are talking active inventory.)  | The A-4 was a tough old workhorse and was a great, flexable, air-to ground aircraft (and I believe the hot rod version was a Top Gun aggressor too!), but I think it lacked the loiter and load carrying capacity of the A-10. Survivability was probably similar, the A-4 was faster (less exposer) but more vunerable while the A-10 was slow but built like a tank. Apparently the A-4 and A-7 did not provide all the ground support that was needed since the A-1 continued to be operated throughout the war. | |
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12-14-2006, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet
I think the A-10 is the best attack but and A-10 would not be any harder to shoot down with a SAM than any other conventional aircraft.
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I am not sure I agree with this. Redundancy and armament certainly makes it a difficult nut to crack. It would be more tolerant to warhead size and circle of error misses. On a one event bases, the A-10 would probably be more survivable than typical jet aircraft. Slow speed would make it more susceptable to multiple targeting, however. | |
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12-14-2006, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by davparlr If you think the A-1 was impressive, what did you think of the Martin Mauler sitting next to it? More powerful still! | YEAH BABY! That whole museum is awesome... except the jets don't interest me!
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12-14-2006, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mkloby YEAH BABY! That whole museum is awesome... except the jets don't interest me! | I love those early jets too. I grew up with them, F9F, F11F, F4D, all. My favorite airplane of all time is the F8U. It just looks different and great. The A5D, beautiful. | |
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12-14-2006, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by davparlr I love those early jets too. I grew up with them, F9F, F11F, F4D, all. My favorite airplane of all time is the F8U. It just looks different and great. The A5D, beautiful. | Oops, I mean the A-5 (A3J) Vigilante, not A5D. | |
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