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12-25-2006, 08:40 AM
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#106 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | A-10s don't need EW countermeasure equipment - there are other A/C for lugging those heavy pods... such as Prowlers and the navy's EA-18 will do...
Not to mention that A-10s can carry the Sensor Fuzed weapon - which God help any hostile armored unit that gets to meet one of them...
If you need CAS - the A-10 is a great bird...
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12-25-2006, 01:13 PM
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#107 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | And let's not forget the A-10C now is precision strike capable.
Anyone know what the story is for the A-10B? Was this an upgrade program that went missing? Was this the original engine upgrade that was bypassed for avionics, structural and weapons package upgrades?
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12-25-2006, 01:38 PM
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#108 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | A-10 is deffinatly the best attack aircraft. She is rugged, can carry the most ordinance and can slug it out with the enemy. Sorry but the Tornado can not take the damage, can not fly as slow as the A-10 and does not have the Close Air Support capability of the A-10.
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12-26-2006, 06:00 AM
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#109 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | different roles anyway as has been said, whilst the Tornado can carry more NATO ordinance than any other combat aircraft as i understand it, she remains a strike aircraft..........
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12-28-2006, 02:06 AM
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Country:  | Agreed, although it seems like they may be extending the A-10 gradually to take more different NATO armaments... Anyone know whether they carry wing-tip ATA missiles to distract attackers? | |
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12-28-2006, 03:41 PM
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#111 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i don't believe she's really fast enough to suit the role of strike aircraft, leave that to the fast jets........
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12-28-2006, 06:16 PM
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#112 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by HealzDevo  Agreed, although it seems like they may be extending the A-10 gradually to take more different NATO armaments... Anyone know whether they carry wing-tip ATA missiles to distract attackers? | They have carried AIM-9s underwing. One got a kill in GW1 but I think he used his gun.
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12-28-2006, 06:20 PM
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#113 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Here's the kill date...
15Feb91 511TFS/10TFW T.Sheehy A-10A/81-0964 30mm Mi-8 IrAF
BTW I also found that an AH-64 got an air-to-air kill, pilot unknown
27Feb91 229 Avn/101st AH-64A AGM-114 Helicopter IrAF
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12-28-2006, 06:22 PM
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6Feb91 706TFS/926TFW R.Swain A-10A/77-0205 30mm Bo.105C IrAF
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12-29-2006, 03:15 PM
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Country: | Sidewinders typically carried as a pair on one under-wing mount only. A-10s do not have wing tip mounts, as their wings actually curve downward at their tips.
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01-02-2007, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt308 Sidewinders typically carried as a pair on one under-wing mount only. A-10s do not have wing tip mounts, as their wings actually curve downward at their tips. | Didnt the A-10 actually shoot down a Taliban aircraft at one point, i read about this once, but i didnt think the Taliban were intelligent enough to fly a kite let alone an aircraft
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01-02-2007, 09:40 PM
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Country: | Sounds interesting, anyone found any more info on that shoot-down? | |
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01-03-2007, 07:20 AM
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#118 | | Senior Member
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Country: | The IDS Tornado is not capable of CAS work, it was never designed to do such a job. It is an interdictor, it was designed to destroy bunkers, airfields and HQs.
During its first combat operations in the Gulf War, it was sent in low to attack Iraqi airfields. Sometimes operating as low as fifty feet but suffered accordingly, as six GR.1s were lost to Iraqi AA.
When sent on medium level strikes, the Tornado was found wanting. It required the aid of BAe Buccaneers with TIALD laser designators to accompany them on any strike missions.
The GR.4 is a massive improvement over the GR.1. The aim was to improve the medium-level ability of the Tornado due to its failings in the past. It was only finished in 2003, and one just crashed recently.
It's embarassing for the GR.1 when you see what's new to the GR.4. FLIR, wide-angle HUD, NVG, GPS are some of the things that really should have been present a long time ago. But the GR.4 can carry storm-shadow cruise missiles and does contain the impressive TARDIS system.
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01-04-2007, 04:56 AM
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#119 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars Didnt the A-10 actually shoot down a Taliban aircraft at one point, i read about this once, but i didnt think the Taliban were intelligent enough to fly a kite let alone an aircraft | I could be wrong, but I dont think the Taliban sent any aircraft up..
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01-05-2007, 10:40 AM
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#120 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | Taliban? Aircraft? I don't think its in compliance with the laws of physics to even use those two words in the same sentence.
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