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01-05-2007, 11:27 AM
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#121 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country:  | From the best I got the Taliban only had a few aircraft available when the coalition invaded Afghanistan - those aircraft were destroyed on the opening strikes...
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01-05-2007, 12:04 PM
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Country:  | Ok hers why i asked the question, I was at an airshow in Moosejaw, there was an A-10 there, and over the loud speaker the guy was speaking about the battle history of the plane, now he mentioned 1 air to air kill over Afghanistan, so i took the time to look it up right after, i had found about a dozen results saying the same thing and when i tried looking it up again a few days ago, i got zilch so thats why i asked, i dunno, its confusing, maybe the results were false and "they'' got rid of them
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01-05-2007, 12:13 PM
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#123 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars  Ok hers why i asked the question, I was at an airshow in Moosejaw, there was an A-10 there, and over the loud speaker the guy was speaking about the battle history of the plane, now he mentioned 1 air to air kill over Afghanistan, so i took the time to look it up right after, i had found about a dozen results saying the same thing and when i tried looking it up again a few days ago, i got zilch so thats why i asked, i dunno, its confusing, maybe the results were false and "they'' got rid of them | My best sources show the only air-to-air kills by an A-10 happened during GW1.
Here's a site about the Afghan AF just prior to the invasion... Afghanistan, 1979-2001; Part 3
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01-07-2007, 05:13 PM
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Country: | They captured some of DRAAF aircraft in '92 is what i read
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01-08-2007, 10:06 AM
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#125 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Yeah from what I know. All of the few taliban aircraft were destroyed on the ground in the cruise missle strikes.
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01-08-2007, 03:59 PM
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Country: | Ok thankyou for the clarification, i guess either the airshow guy made a mistake or i misunderstood him.
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03-31-2007, 08:58 AM
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#127 | | Minister of Whoopass
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02-17-2008, 10:51 AM
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Aw, gimmee a paper airplane and a firecracker. That'll knock the crap outa them!
(kidding  )
Funny, the A-10 and Jag are included and not the Mig-23 (BN).
During the Afghani war in the late 70's, that was pretty much Russia's "ace-in-the-hole", or at least thats the way it seemed.
I remember hearing about how the American military was impressed with how it handled itself during that conflict.
One thing it has over the A-10 is " Mach" capability, of course so does the Jaguar, I think.
...still, I voted for the A-10.
C'mon, its tougher than a bag or nails and its American! 
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02-17-2008, 12:03 PM
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Country:  | A-1 for me, all the way....that were flying destroyers as the story goes Korea I think it was.... I can't find the story, but the point is when the pilot had finished reporting to Marine on the ground, he asked "what the h*ll are you flying, destroyers?"
How does the maximum load compare to the A-10 and for how long could they stay in the air compared to each other?
Also, where's the A-6 Intruder??
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02-18-2008, 06:03 AM
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According to "Warbird Alley", the A-1 had a max. capacity of 14,450 lbs and a 900 mile range.
According to "Global Aircraft", the A-10 has a max. capacity of 25,400lbs. and a range of 800 miles.
I imagine, this is at a cruise speed in the 300-350 kt. range.
Hope that answers your question.
...oh yeah, and all the A-6's are stationed at Whidbey Island NAS, so if you're looking for one.... (kidding ).
I used to see them fly over my parents house, all the time, when I was kid.
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02-24-2008, 12:11 AM
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Country: | The History channel did a show on attack aircraft of different era's and broke down every part of what was needed for that role and concluded the P-47 was the best attack aircraft up to this point. I wish I could recall the exact name of the episode . It was very detailed and descriptive. | |
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02-24-2008, 04:50 AM
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snafud1,
Would that have been an episode of "Dogfights"?
If not, then probably something under the "Modern Marvels" series.
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02-24-2008, 01:01 PM
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#133 | | Junior Member
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Country: | I believe it was Modern Marvels now that you mention it. | |
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02-24-2008, 10:28 PM
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Country: | I think that it is interesting that only one post identified the A-10 correctly as the Thunderbolt II, not the Lightning (Lightning II is the name of the F-35), and that was in a quote. That includes mine. | |
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03-14-2008, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars Ok thankyou for the clarification, i guess either the airshow guy made a mistake or i misunderstood him. | The A-10 took out a Iraqi/Sov helicopter with the gun.. but it was either tag end of the GW1 or immediately afterwards during a rare 'no fly zone' enforcement.
A-10 for me. When the discussion is Attack and not multi role - it is clearly the best at what is does. There are several fast movers that also do a good job, are more survivable in a hot air threat environment but in my opinion none as lethal to grunts/light skin and armor as this bad boy... and the USAF did it's best to shove it aside.
The Army kept it in the inventory when they continually crept into close air support role with new and better helos and 'scout' craft to fill the niche that A-10 would have left for them with no follow on replacement.
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