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01-28-2006, 07:55 PM
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#16 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ We've discussed the Mig-25 before | I love it, no reason.
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01-28-2006, 07:58 PM
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Country:  | I guess the russians thought it was top of the line, ahead of its time, so much a pilot had to go rogue and take one to Japan, but like you said FBJ it was nothing but steel, Cathoder ehem I mean Cathode tubes, goes to show what Russias idea of high quality was then eh?
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01-28-2006, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars I guess the russians thought it was top of the line, ahead of its time, so much a pilot had to go rogue and take one to Japan, but like you said FBJ it was nothing but steel, Cathoder ehem I mean Cathode tubes, goes to show what Russias idea of high quality was then eh? | Well it was designed for one thing, to intercept the B-70 which never materialized, but it was a formidable interceptor for straight on, one or two shots. It was crude and could be somewhat dangerous according to Victor Belinko, they guy who defected to Japan in 1976.
The SR-71 just danced around it when it tried to intercept the Blackbird, Belinko stated that it seemed the Blackbird was just taunting the Russians!
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01-28-2006, 08:45 PM
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Country: | One of the reason for using vacuum tubes in the Mig-25 is that they are not succeptible to EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse). Any fighter that is going after a nuclear bomber should have the least amount of succeptibility to EMP.
And for the record guys, Cathode Ray Tubes, or CRTs are still used even today. That is the screen for computers, TVs, radars and even American Fighters carried them for many years.
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01-28-2006, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by evangilder One of the reason for using vacuum tubes in the Mig-25 is that they are not succeptible to EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse). Any fighter that is going after a nuclear bomber should have the least amount of succeptibility to EMP.
And for the record guys, Cathode Ray Tubes, or CRTs are still used even today. That is the screen for computers, TVs, radars and even American Fighters carried them for many years. | YEP!!!
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01-29-2006, 03:33 AM
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#21 | | Master of Ewes
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and i'll proberly vote spitfire..............
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01-29-2006, 05:39 AM
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| Vacuum tubes or not, Mig-25 radar was the most powerful airborne radar of it's time. Among soviets there was the joke that, when the pilot forget to switch it off on landing, it kill the rabbits around the airstrip.
An interesting discussion, don't know how much accurate: http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/RAFAQ/MiG-25.html
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Originally Posted by Dogwalker Vacuum tubes or not, Mig-25 radar was the most powerful airborne radar of it's time. Among soviets there was the joke that, when the pilot forget to switch it off on landing, it kill the rabbits around the airstrip.
An interesting discussion, don't know how much accurate: http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/RAFAQ/MiG-25.html
DogW | That is true, but the stats stand - it did miserable in combat even with evenly matched opponents..
I've seen that site, some good info, some bogus, especially about the Mig-25 being designed to intercept the A-12..
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01-29-2006, 07:29 AM
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#24 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Okay well here is my take on the matter. I really dont think you can compare any of these aircraft to one another. Well some you can like the Spitfire to the Fw-190 and the P-51 which in that case in my opinion would go to the Spitfire very closly followed by the Fw-190 and then the P-51. However it is impossible to compare a P-51 to a F-15 Eagle. No contest and no comparison.
Now as for the Mig-25 I agree it was a fast peace of junk. Nothing more than that also. I tried to find a picture on my external harddrive of a destroyed Mig-25 that was at the Airfield that I was based out of in Iraq. I have some good photos of it being the junk that it is.
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01-29-2006, 09:07 AM
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Vacuum tubes or not, Mig-25 radar was the most powerful airborne radar of it's time. Among soviets there was the joke that, when the pilot forget to switch it off on landing, it kill the rabbits around the airstrip.
An interesting discussion, don't know how much accurate: http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/RAFAQ/MiG-25.html
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| That very same rumour surrounded the English Electric Lightning. I think the idea of the RADAR killing rabbits on landing or take-off was just a general joke of the era, or obvious misinformation.
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01-29-2006, 09:50 AM
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01-29-2006, 09:51 AM
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Country: | I doubt they actually killed them. But if they did ... well, the rabbit itself would be dead - but I'm sure it's little bunny friends found it horrific and tried to sue the MoD.
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01-29-2006, 09:53 AM
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01-29-2006, 10:05 AM
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On the MiG-25 issue, as crap as it was you cant help but love it.
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