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03-25-2006, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Point being?
Do you really think that a F-4 would beat a F-15 in a fight? | As Ive said numerous times, we have to breakout the aircraft by "eras".
The F15 could beat an F4, which could beat an F100, which could beat an F86, which could beat an P80, which could beat an P47, which could beat ....blah blah blah blah.
From 1960 through the middle 70's, the F4 was the best fighter and it proved it in two major airwars.
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03-25-2006, 03:46 PM
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#332 | | Der Crewchief
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Cuz the way this was going before one could say the Sopwith Camel was better than a Spitfire.
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04-07-2006, 02:16 AM
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04-07-2006, 05:46 AM
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04-07-2006, 10:27 AM
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04-07-2006, 02:38 PM
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04-13-2006, 05:39 AM
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#337 | | Der Crewchief
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04-13-2006, 05:42 AM
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04-21-2006, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by syscom3 As Ive said numerous times, we have to breakout the aircraft by "eras".
The F15 could beat an F4, which could beat an F100, which could beat an F86, which could beat an P80, which could beat an P47, which could beat ....blah blah blah blah.
From 1960 through the middle 70's, the F4 was the best fighter and it proved it in two major airwars. | Yes, but could an F-4 beat a F-8, or even an F-5E? | |
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04-22-2006, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by davparlr Yes, but could an F-4 beat a F-8, or even an F-5E? | If flown correctly - yes. F-8s and F-4s used to go at it all the time in early top gun classes.
The F-5E is a harder target - it boils down to pilot skills and tactics...
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04-22-2006, 10:22 AM
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04-22-2006, 09:32 PM
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04-23-2006, 02:52 AM
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04-23-2006, 08:13 AM
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04-23-2006, 09:48 AM
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but it was really more of a bomber destroyer, with all those guns, bad stall characteristics and not-so-good turn rate
what i don't agree with is that the Mustang got more than the 190
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