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01-28-2006, 05:32 PM
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Country: | Greatest Fighter Aircraft of All Time Okay I saw this program on Discovery about the Top Ten Best fighter aircraft, I didnt fully agree with their results so I would like to see what you guys think.
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01-28-2006, 06:14 PM
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| There isn't the Mig 25. My vote is for it.
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01-28-2006, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogwalker There isn't the Mig 25. My vote is for it.
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01-28-2006, 06:24 PM
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Country: | Fast, high flying junk though.
But yeah, it was junky.  |
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01-28-2006, 06:44 PM
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Country: | We've discussed the Mig-25 before but it was a stroke of what I call "Primitive Genius." We all know how the Soviets used steel, radar and communications equipment with cathode tubes, no real egress system, etc. just to make the Mig-25 competitive. In return, when used with other air forces, it did terrible. I have the following numbers.
IRAN - IRAQ War
Mig-25 Confirmed Kills - 6
Unconfirmed - 3
Mig- 25 confirmed destroyed by the IIAF - 15
Gulf War 1, 3 Mig-25s killed by coalition forces
Middle East - 3 Mig-25s killed by the IAF
SO the Mig-25 as a fighter has a 3 to 10 kill ratio!
IIAF 2 times F-5s shot down Mig-25s! That's embarrising!!! 
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01-28-2006, 06:49 PM
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Country: | Well it originated in Russia so a 3:10 ratio is acceptable you just send up 4 times as many planes
And my vote goes to the F-86, it showed good service in Korea and onwards. Another thing where is the Lightning (EE not Lockheed)...
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01-28-2006, 06:49 PM
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#7 | | He who does not skim
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01-28-2006, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gnomey Well it originated in Russia so a 3:10 ratio is acceptable you just send up 4 times as many planes  | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Gnomey And my vote goes to the F-86, it showed good service in Korea and onwards. | Good Man! 
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01-28-2006, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Nonskimmer I think I remember that thread, Joe.  | Yea, that was pretty funny! I wonder what ever happened to that guy!!
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01-28-2006, 06:53 PM
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Another thing where is the Lightning (EE not Lockheed)...
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Its an excellent plane, but it didt have a major influence in the history of Dog Fighting.
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01-28-2006, 06:53 PM
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01-28-2006, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by plan_D He suffocated while his head was stuck up a kangeroos' ass. | 
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01-28-2006, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Quote: |
Originally Posted by plan_D He suffocated while his head was stuck up a kangeroos' ass. |  |  How pleasant...
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01-28-2006, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars Quote: |
Another thing where is the Lightning (EE not Lockheed)...
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Its an excellent plane, but it didnt have a major influence in the history of Dog Fighting. | Excuse me I meant to say it was an excellent plane but it didnt have a major influence in the history of Dog Fighting so I didnt put it up there
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01-28-2006, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ We've discussed the Mig-25 before | I love it, no reason.
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