Greatest Fighter Aircraft of All Time - Aircraft of World War II

102first_hussars · 01-28-2006, 07:32 PM

Okay I saw this program on Discovery about the Top Ten Best fighter aircraft, I didnt fully agree with their results so I would like to see what you guys think.

Dogwalker · 01-28-2006, 08:14 PM

There isn't the Mig 25. My vote is for it.

DogW

FLYBOYJ · 01-28-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogwalker

There isn't the Mig 25. My vote is for it.

DogW

Becuase it was junk!

Nonskimmer · 01-28-2006, 08:24 PM

Fast, high flying junk though.

But yeah, it was junky.

FLYBOYJ · 01-28-2006, 08:44 PM

We've discussed the Mig-25 before but it was a stroke of what I call "Primitive Genius." We all know how the Soviets used steel, radar and communications equipment with cathode tubes, no real egress system, etc. just to make the Mig-25 competitive. In return, when used with other air forces, it did terrible. I have the following numbers.

IRAN - IRAQ War
Mig-25 Confirmed Kills - 6
Unconfirmed - 3

Mig- 25 confirmed destroyed by the IIAF - 15

Gulf War 1, 3 Mig-25s killed by coalition forces

Middle East - 3 Mig-25s killed by the IAF

SO the Mig-25 as a fighter has a 3 to 10 kill ratio!

IIAF 2 times F-5s shot down Mig-25s! That's embarrising!!!

Gnomey · 01-28-2006, 08:49 PM

Well it originated in Russia so a 3:10 ratio is acceptable you just send up 4 times as many planes

And my vote goes to the F-86, it showed good service in Korea and onwards. Another thing where is the Lightning (EE not Lockheed)...

Nonskimmer · 01-28-2006, 08:49 PM

I think I remember that thread, Joe.

FLYBOYJ · 01-28-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnomey

Well it originated in Russia so a 3:10 ratio is acceptable you just send up 4 times as many planes

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Originally Posted by Gnomey

And my vote goes to the F-86, it showed good service in Korea and onwards.

Good Man!

FLYBOYJ · 01-28-2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nonskimmer

I think I remember that thread, Joe.

Yea, that was pretty funny! I wonder what ever happened to that guy!!

102first_hussars · 01-28-2006, 08:53 PM

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Another thing where is the Lightning (EE not Lockheed)...

Its an excellent plane, but it didt have a major influence in the history of Dog Fighting.

plan_D · 01-28-2006, 08:53 PM

He suffocated while his head was stuck up a kangeroos' ass.

FLYBOYJ · 01-28-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by plan_D

He suffocated while his head was stuck up a kangeroos' ass.

Gnomey · 01-28-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

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Originally Posted by plan_D

He suffocated while his head was stuck up a kangeroos' ass.

How pleasant...

102first_hussars · 01-28-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars

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Another thing where is the Lightning (EE not Lockheed)...

Its an excellent plane, but it didnt have a major influence in the history of Dog Fighting.

Excuse me I meant to say it was an excellent plane but it didnt have a major influence in the history of Dog Fighting so I didnt put it up there

Dogwalker · 01-28-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

We've discussed the Mig-25 before

I love it, no reason.

DogW

View Poll Results: Which is the best
Sabre F-86	6	4.38%
Mig 21 Fishbed	6	4.38%
Mig 15	4	2.92%
Spitfire	29	21.17%
FW-190	18	13.14%
P-51	27	19.71%
Harrier	2	1.46%
F-15 Eagle	30	21.90%
Sopwith Camel	2	1.46%
Fokker DR1	5	3.65%
F4-Phantom	8	5.84%
Voters: 137. You may not vote on this poll

01-28-2006, 07:32 PM	#1
102first_hussars Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Posts: 2,259	Greatest Fighter Aircraft of All Time Okay I saw this program on Discovery about the Top Ten Best fighter aircraft, I didnt fully agree with their results so I would like to see what you guys think. __________________ Hello me...meet the real me. And my misfits way of life. A dark black past is my Most valued possession. Hindsight is always 20-20, But looking back its still a bit fuzzy. Speak of mutually assured destruction? Nice story...tell it to readers digest!!!

01-28-2006, 08:14 PM	#2
Dogwalker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Manziana Field, near Rome Posts: 260	There isn't the Mig 25. My vote is for it. DogW __________________

01-28-2006, 08:44 PM	#5
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,051	We've discussed the Mig-25 before but it was a stroke of what I call "Primitive Genius." We all know how the Soviets used steel, radar and communications equipment with cathode tubes, no real egress system, etc. just to make the Mig-25 competitive. In return, when used with other air forces, it did terrible. I have the following numbers. IRAN - IRAQ War Mig-25 Confirmed Kills - 6 Unconfirmed - 3 Mig- 25 confirmed destroyed by the IIAF - 15 Gulf War 1, 3 Mig-25s killed by coalition forces Middle East - 3 Mig-25s killed by the IAF SO the Mig-25 as a fighter has a 3 to 10 kill ratio! IIAF 2 times F-5s shot down Mig-25s! That's embarrising!!! __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

01-28-2006, 08:49 PM	#6
Gnomey "World Traveller" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 15,224	Well it originated in Russia so a 3:10 ratio is acceptable you just send up 4 times as many planes And my vote goes to the F-86, it showed good service in Korea and onwards. Another thing where is the Lightning (EE not Lockheed)... __________________ "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr

01-28-2006, 08:24 PM	#4
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	Fast, high flying junk though. But yeah, it was junky.

01-28-2006, 08:53 PM	#11
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	He suffocated while his head was stuck up a kangeroos' ass. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

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