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10-29-2005, 11:51 AM
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| The marines always seem to end up with what they want. They have powerfull friends in Capitol Hill.
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10-29-2005, 12:01 PM
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#272 | | Master of Ewes
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10-29-2005, 12:06 PM
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#273 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by syscom3 The marines always seem to end up with what they want. They have powerfull friends in Capitol Hill. | Depends what era and under what Presidential Administration you're talking about - right now they have mega clout!!!
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10-29-2005, 12:14 PM
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#274 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass so now you're saying that they want harriers?? | They already have Harriers, have had them for quite some time and really like them.
__________________  US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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10-29-2005, 03:14 PM
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#275 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | The Apache was a great Advancement from the Cobra, but the USN still uses the updated SuperCobra instead of the Apache.
I think the Comanche is going to be something sweet.
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10-29-2005, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nonskimmer Huss, we never had 1200 F-18's. We started out with something like 138 of them. Most of them are the A model, but there are a few B's in there as well. | K my bad your right, I got the statistics mixed up with a squadron number.
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Hello me...meet the real me.
And my misfits way of life.
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Hindsight is always 20-20,
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10-29-2005, 04:07 PM
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#277 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars The Apache was a great Advancement from the Cobra, but the USN still uses the updated SuperCobra instead of the Apache.
I think the Comanche is going to be something sweet. | Because the Cobra is just as good and can do everything that the Apache can and is not as maintenance intensive and does not break as much.
Dont keep up with the news much do you? The Comanche was already canceled. Quite a while ago.
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10-29-2005, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Quote: |
Originally Posted by 102first_hussars The Apache was a great Advancement from the Cobra, but the USN still uses the updated SuperCobra instead of the Apache.
I think the Comanche is going to be something sweet. | Because the Cobra is just as good and can do everything that the Apache can and is not as maintenance intensive and does not break as much.
Dont keep up with the news much do you? The Comanche was already canceled. Quite a while ago. | Are you serious what the hell happend there was nothing wrong with the dam thing
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And my misfits way of life.
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10-29-2005, 04:28 PM
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#279 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | First of all it was too expensive, and the AH-64D Longbow could do everything that the Comanche could do. Quote:
The Boeing-Sikorsky RAH-66 Comanche was cancelled on 23 February 2004. The Army said it would use the $14.6 billion earmarked for 121 Comanches between 2004 and 2011 to buy 796 additional Black Hawk and other helicopters and to upgrade and modernize 1,400 helicopters already in the fleet. The Army wants new proposals to develop and build a new armed reconnaissance aircraft. The Army plans to initiate programs for a total of 303 light utility helicopters and 368 armed reconnaissance planes.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...aft/rah-66.htm |
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10-30-2005, 02:51 AM
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#280 | | Master of Ewes
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Quote: |
Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass so now you're saying that they want harriers?? | They already have Harriers, have had them for quite some time and really like them. | sorry adler you miss-understand me, syscom argued at one point that the marines didn't want the harriers but they got them through political means, but him saying the marines always get what they want is contradicting that and it means the marines wanted the harriers!
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10-30-2005, 05:48 AM
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#281 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | From what I have gathered from talking with Marine Harrier pilots is that they love them. It is perfect for what the Marines do.
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10-30-2005, 10:22 AM
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| I said the Marines like the Harriers and find ways to get them funded even though many in the Pentagon, GAO and Congress want to kill off the program due to its expense for a plane of limited capabilities.
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10-30-2005, 10:56 AM
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#283 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | If the pilot' like them, and their command feels they are gettig the job done, there's little room for argument...
Many folks in the Pentagon, GAO and especially Congress don't fly..
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10-30-2005, 12:28 PM
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#284 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ If the pilot' like them, and their command feels they are gettig the job done, there's little room for argument...
Many folks in the Pentagon, GAO and especially Congress don't fly.. | Said very well.
And as for the aircraft having limited abilities. It does everything the Marines want it to do. It is not there fighter but there ground attack/support aircraft. For everything else they use the F-18.
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10-30-2005, 03:18 PM
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#285 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Gnomey Syscom, how can you argue with someone who was there? Maybe it was the fault of the Tornado's radar but unless pD says that that is want the problem was I am inclined not to believe it. | Easy it didn't happen on his flight sim that way, thats why! 
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