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CF-105 Arrow 4 1.94%
Sabre F-86 20 9.71%
Mig 15 3 1.46%
MiG-21 6 2.91%
Harrier 7 3.40%
EF-2000 4 1.94%
Mirage 2000 3 1.46%
F-14 Tomcat 20 9.71%
F-15 Eagle 44 21.36%
Mig 29 Fulcrum 10 4.85%
SU-37 13 6.31%
F-4 Phantom 26 12.62%
English Electric Lightning 11 5.34%
F-22 Raptor 21 10.19%
F-18 Super Hornet 9 4.37%
F-8 Crusader 1 0.49%
F-104 Starfighter 4 1.94%
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Old 10-18-2005, 03:05 PM   #16
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not to combat I don't think...

I am saying the F-86 Sabre because I think it is cool and it had a proven success rate against enemy fighters.
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I thought almost all of Israels kills in the 80's and 90's were from the F16.

I could be wrong.
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F-15 almost lost - close but no cigar!

"Accordingly, the F-15 was designed with broad-chord wings supplemented with additional lift from the upper surface of the wide fuselage. This feature showed its value several years later in the Middle East, when an Israeli F-15 lost its right wing in combat and was still able to return to its base for a normal landing."
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Old 10-18-2005, 03:11 PM   #19
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I thought almost all of Israels kills in the 80's and 90's were from the F16.

I could be wrong.
IAF F-16s only had a small number of kills, check out this site....

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/cat_index_22.shtml
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Has to be the F15.
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The F-15, followed rather closely by the F-86....
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The F-15 scored my favorite kill story....

"One F-15E scored an aerial kill by dropping a laser-guided bomb on an airborne Iraqi helicopter."

Feb. 15, 1991. In one of the most unusual air-to-air victories ever, Capt. Tim Bennett and Capt. Dan Bakke of the 4th Tactical Fighter Wing at Seymour Johnson AFB, N.C., shoot down an Iraqi helicopter (probably an Mi-24 Hind) with a GBU-10 2,000-pound Laser-Guided Bomb dropped from their F-15E.


Here's a short article on the F-15's combat history....

F-15 in combat:

Israel :

The first IDF/AF action with Eagles took place on 27 June 1979, since that day the F-15's of the Israeli Air Force scored 17 air to air victories.

Saudi Arabia:

On 5 June 1984, Eagles of No 6 Squadron were involved in an air battle with Iranian piloted F-4 Phantoms witch were threatening Saudi oil fields. Two of the intruders were shot down by AIM-7 Sparrows. This was the first time (and the only) that McDonnell Douglas fighters fought each other. One RSAF F-15 shot down a pair of Iraqi Dassault Mirage F-1's during Desert Storm.

Desert Storm 17 January - 28 February 1991:

The USAF had five F-15C and two F-15E squadrons when the (air) war against Iraq began. Although the F-15E was still not fully combat-ready, 48 F-15Es flew in the Gulf War. F-15Es joined other Coalition aircraft in searching for and attacking Iraqi "Scud" missile launchers. These Scud hunt missions were largely unsuccessful, but the F-15Es attacked many other Iraqi targets of opportunity. The F-15C's scored 32 aerial kills, of a total of 41 victories. Twenty-four of these kills were achieved with the Sparrow missile, eight by AIM-9 sidewinders. One F-15E scored an aerial kill by dropping a laser-guided bomb on an airborne Iraqi helicopter. No F-15C/D Eagle fighters were lost during Desert Shield / Storm, two F-15E Strike Eagles were lost in action.

Provide Comfort 1 March 1991 - 1 January 1997

Northern/Southern watch: 1 January 1997 - 1 May 2003:

F-15C's of the USAF shot down three Iraqi Su-22's with the AIM-9 and one Pilatus PC-9 trainer.

On 14 April 1994 there was a tragic 'Friendly Fire' incident over Northern Iraq, when a pair of F-15C's shot down two UH-60 Black hawks, killing 26 American and United Nations personnel.

Deliberate Force: Aug.- Sept. 1994:

F-15C were in combat air patrols, and never shot down a Serbian aircraft (all F-16 kills) The F-15E was in air to ground actions.

Allied Force: 24 March - 10 June 1999:

On the first day of Allied Force 24 March 1999, F-15C's killed four Serbian MiG-29's with AIM-120 AMRAAM's. One pilot Major J.Kwhang from the 493rd FS shot-down two aircraft.

Enduring Freedom 7 October 2001 - :

F-15E 89-0487 shot-down a Mi-24 Hind helicopter in Afghanistan.

Iraqi Freedom 20 March 2003 - April 2003:

USAF F-15C/D's from Al Jaber AB, Kuwait and F-15C/D from Prince Sultan AB, Saudi Arabia flew together with F-15E Strike Eagles combat-missions in Iraq. One F-15E (88-1694/SJ) of 333rd FS, 4th FW from Seymour Johnson AFB, NC was shot-down near Tikrit in Iraq on 6 April 2003, the pilots were Killed in Action.

This article has been written by Rob Vogelaar.
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Great stuff, Joe!
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Interesting stuff FBJ.
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Actually, as much as I love the Lightning. Off the basis of "greatest" being a literal term it has to be the F-15 'Eagle' nothing else has been able to defeat this marvel of an aircraft in a fight and it's combat record is truely perfect.

The funny thing is, the first aircraft the F-15 shot down was a F-4!
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The funny thing is, the first aircraft the F-15 shot down was a F-4!
That's almost as funny as dropping a 2000 bomb on a helicopter!
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Talk about company rivallry.
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Talk about company rivallry.
I say we have an F-16, F-22, F-35 "Free for all."
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That would be interesting. I would put my money on the F-22 though.
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