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11-11-2005, 10:34 AM
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#346 | | Senior Member
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| Do you know if the radar had an SCR or AN number?
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11-11-2005, 10:47 AM
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#347 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Upward not downward. Downward just seems not right to me.
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11-11-2005, 10:55 AM
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#348 | | "Shooter"
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Country:  | I think I have the number at home, syscom. I will check and see.
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11-11-2005, 02:25 PM
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#349 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Well its not talking about ground attack
So lets all agree to disagree.
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11-11-2005, 02:55 PM
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#350 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | I want to know where the info came from. There are several of us here that know WWII era mechanics and the guns pointing downward has never been brought up. So the question is, what is the source of that info?
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11-11-2005, 03:09 PM
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#351 | | Senior Member
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| Didnt the Germans toy with an attack plane that fired a cannon downward so as to easily penetrate the top armour of a tank?
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11-11-2005, 03:39 PM
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#352 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars Well its not talking about ground attack
So lets all agree to disagree. | No I just dont believe it. Quote: |
Originally Posted by sycom3 Didnt the Germans toy with an attack plane that fired a cannon downward so as to easily penetrate the top armour of a tank? | Yes but it was different than what Hussars up there is talking about. The guns were mounted in the back of the fuselage and mounted downwards and shot out the bottom of the aircraft. But actually now that I think about it there was one that also was made to fire upward and attack bomber formations. I may be wrong that there was one pointing down. Erich might be able to help with this one.
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11-11-2005, 03:40 PM
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#353 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | OK Guys - got the scoop!!
Today I spoke with one of our pilots. Lee Mazzarella (Col, USAF RET) flew F-105s, F-4s and A-1s in Viet Nam. As being a maintenance officer in the A-1H squadron, he assured me that the 4 20mm cannons WERE NOT bored downward, the same with F-105. Lee did close to 100 missions and 2000 hours in Skyraiders Quote: |
Originally Posted by syscom3 Didnt the Germans toy with an attack plane that fired a cannon downward so as to easily penetrate the top armour of a tank? | Junkers J-1 of WW1 had a downward firing gun.
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11-11-2005, 03:46 PM
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#354 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | And there you have it. What we all thought has been confirmed.
Thanks FBJ and also thanks for the info on the WW1 German plane. I also think there was a WW2 project also.
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11-11-2005, 04:06 PM
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#355 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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11-15-2005, 12:12 AM
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#356 | | "Shooter"
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Originally Posted by syscom3 Do you know if the radar had an SCR or AN number? | I am not able to find an AN number for the radar in the F4U-2, but had read that it was developed at MIT and hand built. So they may have "prototypes".
The F4U-4N carried the AN/APS-6 radar set.
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11-20-2005, 03:40 PM
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#357 | | Junior Member
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| the F-4 was excellent for its time but is now totally outdated. in my opinion the SU-37 is definitly the best.. though it never went into production unfortunately. 
as of now the F-22 is stastically the best overall (though also the most expensive) it is soon going to be surpassed though by the MiG 142
I'm also a fan of the F-14, but it'll be out of date by 2010 f'sure.
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11-20-2005, 03:44 PM
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#358 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | The F-14 is already being retired from front line service. Replaced by the F-18E Super Hornet.
As for your Mig 1.42 I do not think the Russians will develop it beyond prototype. They can not afford it.
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11-20-2005, 03:55 PM
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#359 | | Junior Member
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| yeah its a real shame they dont have the funding, same as what i read. the F-18E is definitly better than the F-14, but I read somewheres that the F-14D won't be officially retired until 2008-10
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11-20-2005, 04:01 PM
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#360 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | It wont be officially retired until 2008 but it will not be in front line service.
The F-18E is a great plane but does not have the capabilities of the F-14.
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