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12-30-2007, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SoD Stitch  Gotta say I love the -104, probably more than the F-15. It was truly a fighter pilot's fighter but, unfortunately, I wouldn't call it a great fighter. It was extremely fast in a straight line (it set the world low-level speed record back in '77), but it had next to no range, wasn't very manueverable, and was unable (except in very late and very upgraded versions) to carry medium-range AA missles, which made for a potentially great dogfighter. The bad news is it never had a chance to prove itself in combat (except with the Pakistanis), as it was too late for Korea, and too early for Vietnam (though a few were stationed at Da Nang in '65-'66). It ended up being a great low-level tactical strike bomber for the Bundesluftwaffe in the '70's & '80's. | heres a liitle story about 104's and Red Flag http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/mod...tml#post260523 (TSR-2 - "Perfect example for unmasterable technology and mismanagement?")
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Country:  | I voted for the F-8. Even though it might not have had the same impact on the air war over Vietnam as the F-86 had over Korea. For what I've read, I understand why pilots were reluctant to switch from the F-8 to the F-4 back in the day...but at the same time a weapon officer is probably needed today with all the modern highspeed technology a' la F-15...
1: F-86
2: F-8
3: F-4
4: F-15
5: F-104
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01-27-2008, 05:28 AM
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Country:  | For me The F-14 is the Best in my regard due to may resons the main being its Radar and the AIM-45 Phiniox AAM and above all its looks | |
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04-02-2008, 05:05 PM
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having grown up in the us air force as an air force dependant and having been the son of a fighter pilot(then bomber pilot) who saw to it i saw a lot of aircraft(us and foreign),i think this is a question that can not be answered without some ground rules. first, it would probably be best to decide on a best fighter for an era (1950's,etc.) then, to decide on best fighter for combat role "air superiority" ,"ground attack" etc. there are a lot of variables! otherwise you're putting gloster gladiators up against messerschmitts over malta--so to speak, i think you get the point. good luck,h.whiteman. | |
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04-05-2008, 09:43 AM
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04-05-2008, 10:32 AM
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#576 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | If you're going to pick the Phantom II, then it has to be the RAF F-4M with the Vixen radome. Better lines in my opinion.
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04-05-2008, 02:41 PM
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04-05-2008, 05:48 PM
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04-05-2008, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by smg i tin=nk the su 37 becouse its porformens in simulater games | Yeah, me too. I like the F-19 because nobody can detect it and it can kill everybody real good.
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04-05-2008, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by smg i tin=nk the su 37 becouse its porformens in simulater games | You are going to use a video game to help you make your choice? I hope you are ready to take some FLAK!
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04-05-2008, 07:00 PM
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Hey SMG, your post was indicative or either your age, your IQ, or your shoe size.
Was that better Adler?
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04-05-2008, 08:43 PM
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Come on, SMG, you can't base it on a flight sim. You have no way of knowing the accuracy of the sim. Plus flying a sim versus the real thing is incomparable. Until you have felt the heat, the Gs, the buffeting when getting out of the performance envelope, felt the stick forces and responses, you don't have anything to base your judgment on.
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04-05-2008, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by smg i tin=nk the su 37 becouse its porformens in simulater games | Do you believe in the Easter Bunny?
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04-05-2008, 09:04 PM
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