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06-12-2008, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ  That was the reason it was designed to begin with!!!! 
The multi-role philosophy came almost a decade later when by that time technology allowed modern combat aircraft to perform multi roles effectively. | The 104 was better used by the Italians until 2003? as an interceptor could climb as fast and higher plus it was also a multi role fighter . Would also opt for the F4 in the same time frame as did the RAF later . The EE Lightning was a maintainence heavy aircraft and I don't believe that was in the design specs
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06-12-2008, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot The EE Lightning was a maintainence heavy aircraft and I don't believe that was in the design specs | Ease of maintenance was one of the least thought about items in aircraft design until the 1980s...
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06-12-2008, 10:34 PM
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Country:  | The history of the Lightning makes good reading. 
Gething points out in his book 'Sky Guardians', that the design originates as far back as 1949, in response for a high speed research aircraft, but this crystallised into a "quick reaction' interceptor, as by 1953 the threat from high altitude bombers was very real for the UK.
It's short range/endurance was of little importance then as the aircraft was only considered a "stop-gap" (under the direction of Duncan Sandy's White Paper) until replaced by Surface to Air Missiles.
You know the rest. 'Thinking' changed and that "stop-gap" lasted 31 years. The endurance problem became an issue during this long period, culminating in the F3/F6 designs. | |
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06-13-2008, 03:39 AM
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Country:  | i dont know if f-104 was a great dogfighter, but in mine opinion its the most beautifull jet aircraft made since the me 262. YouTube - F-104 Starfighter
i also likes the mirages by its beauty
what i know about modern aviation thats is all about computer systems, very diferent from 40īs wheres the guys should be real ninjas to stay alive. i just figure when microsoft will launch a windows vista fighter edition, then the guys would be a real headcase...
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07-04-2008, 09:20 PM
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07-04-2008, 10:13 PM
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07-05-2008, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JugBR i dont know if f-104 was a great dogfighter, but in mine opinion its the most beautifull jet aircraft made since the me 262. | nice clip - a lot of those scenes were from Edwards and Palmdale in the late 1950s.
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07-05-2008, 03:18 AM
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Country: | Yeah nice clip, however it must be an unwritten rule that every aircraft video now has massive attack's teardrop as background track. | |
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07-09-2008, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ nice clip - a lot of those scenes were from Edwards and Palmdale in the late 1950s. |
i saw those scenes in "wings" from discovery channel, back in the 90īs
f-104 is a piece of art | |
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07-10-2008, 02:51 AM
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09-27-2008, 04:29 PM
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Country: | its not really a fighter but ive always had a quaint feeling for the U-2. but fighterwise i would have a tie between the F-82 Twin Mustang, the F-104 Starfighter, the F-4 Phantom II, or the F-117 Nighthawk | |
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09-27-2008, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ratdog its not really a fighter but ive always had a quaint feeling for the U-2. but fighterwise i would have a tie between the F-82 Twin Mustang, the F-104 Starfighter, the F-4 Phantom II, or the F-117 Nighthawk | The F-117 is not a fighter either. It is a ground attack aircraft. The "F" designation is misleading.
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