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01-22-2006, 05:12 AM
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#31 | | Senior Member
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| What about the Vulcan and Victor? Excellent performance and payload in two of the best looking aircraft of the modern era.
The Canberra/B-57 deserves a mention as does its Soviet counterpart, the Il-28.
The Tu-22M, even though its generally thought of as more of a strike aircraft than a bomber, also deserves special mention. In fact, it probably gets my vote as the best bomber, if only because it rivals the Vulcan in the looks department. | 
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01-22-2006, 06:25 AM
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#32 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | I think the Vulcan and the Victor are good choices to put into a list, but the B-52 has one thing over them that the others do not. Longevitiy. Other than that though the other 2 were great bombers as well as teh Canberra/B-57.
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01-22-2006, 10:34 AM
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| The B52 has been proven in three wars. Just its performace over Vietnam in the Christmas offensive in 1972 proves it was the best. For adaptability, its big strong airframe gives it a leg up on the Vulcan. There isnt any weapon (except for those big FAE bombs) that the B52 cant carry.
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01-22-2006, 11:53 AM
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#34 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country:  | Yep - for what the B-52 accomplished and continues to accomplish, she has got to be the greatest modern day bomber....
I'd throw the Vulcan and Canberra in there too - both served very well...
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01-22-2006, 12:16 PM
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| Dont know about the Vulcan. The Canberra deserves recognition though for its capability for its time.
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01-22-2006, 12:22 PM
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| If the Vulcan had been updated as the B52 was I think it would have been a contender but at the end of the day it wasn't so it remains a what if. and the B52 has my vote.
It certainly had the performance, handling and payload but was never given a proper update.
I have been in a Vulcan in the UK and was shocked at how old the general instrumentation was and its general layout. I remember telling my wife that it was if someone had taken the cockpit of a Lancaster deleted the excellent visibility and stuck it in a more modern airframe. | 
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01-22-2006, 02:08 PM
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#37 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I agree as I said before the BUFF gets the vote from me.
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01-23-2006, 08:17 AM
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| Where the hell is Tu-160? It's faster than B-1B, heavier (payload about the same), has more range,...
It has the speed of Tu-22M Backfire and size of Tu-95 Bear, wingspan over 50 meters spread!
Plus, there are about 50 of them made, compared to 21 B-2s or 106 B-1Bs. | |
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01-23-2006, 09:13 AM
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| Ah yes the Blackjack. Its a Ruskie copy of the B-1. Another cold war warrior.
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01-23-2006, 09:13 AM
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| Doh! I meant to post a pic. Here it is:
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01-23-2006, 12:08 PM
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#41 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Well while I think it is a good bomber, it was not capable of doing what the B-52 was and that is flatten a complete country with just conventional weapons. The Blackjack would have to do it with nuclear. The B-52 had such an awesome payload it could destroy just about anything.
Plus its a BUFF!
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01-23-2006, 01:04 PM
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| True. The B-1 and the Blackjack were Nuke bombers, go in low and get out at warp 9. The BUFF is an angel of death. In 'Nam the VC and the NVA hated Arc Light misssions because they flew so high that they never heard the bombers, they only heard the bombs. Also a BUFF is a Boeing product, its hard to kill. In the 1st Gulf War a BUFF got hit several hundred times, lost 3 engines and still flew back all the way to Diego Garcia. By the time it landed the BUFF was on its last legs and on fire. In retrospect (even to the crew now) it was like watching Key Stone cops getting out of thier Dusenberg. Still, according to the book its impossible for a human to go out the cockpit windows and the pilot did it.
But I digress, the B-1 and especially the Blackjack are not as versitile as the BUFF.
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01-23-2006, 01:42 PM
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#43 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by CurzonDax The BUFF is an angel of death. | That right there about sums it up.
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