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03-22-2007, 03:56 PM
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#76 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by k9kiwi  Excuse me while I roll over and die from laughing so bleeding hard.
It is just like sex.
You have to penetrate to dominate.
Thus the mission is still there. | I believe you might find he is correct just to put a little CO2 on your fire
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03-23-2007, 11:37 PM
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Country:  | B-52 Stratofortress because when it can operate it can carry enough to do some real damage to an enemy. | 
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03-24-2007, 11:54 AM
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#78 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | When it can operate? When can it not operate? There are no serious problems with the BUFF.
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03-25-2007, 03:35 PM
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Country:  | B52 by a mile look at its longevity of service an amazing design an amazing plane | |
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03-25-2007, 03:42 PM
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#80 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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03-25-2007, 04:43 PM
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| The B52 has to be the run away winner | |
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03-25-2007, 06:25 PM
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Country: | I was meaning that it was a bomber that would have problems operating in somewhere like over the Soviet Union in the Cold War even with all its Electronic Countermeasures. It would need air superiority to really operate, otherwise it could be lost very quickly. It does however, have the advantage that it has enough bombs to do serious damage over a target. I know they reduced the radar signature, but can they reduce it enough to really cope with SAMs designed to shoot down F-22s and F-35s when they come out? That is the really question on the B-52s future... | |
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03-25-2007, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot I believe you might find he is correct just to put a little CO2 on your fire | You are right. | |
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03-25-2007, 09:48 PM
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#84 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by HealzDevo I was meaning that it was a bomber that would have problems operating in somewhere like over the Soviet Union in the Cold War even with all its Electronic Countermeasures. | Do you know that the B-2, B-1 and even the good ole B-52 went through extreme arctic environmental testing before they were fully operationally deployed?
BTW - my father in aw flew B-52s out of Minot North Dakota in the 1980s (good ole cold war years). It wasn't too uncommon to get a scramble in the middle of the night where the outside temp was -40F!!!!
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03-25-2007, 10:01 PM
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Country: | I wasn't referring to the weather, I was referring to all those SAMs and fighter aircraft that would intercept the B-52s and destroy them. | |
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03-25-2007, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HealzDevo I wasn't referring to the weather, I was referring to all those SAMs and fighter aircraft that would intercept the B-52s and destroy them. | Where and when? The B-52 (even in the 80s) would hardly be over Soviet territory and when they did strike within the Soviet Union, there would of been much left - cruise missiles! Ever hear of them?
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03-25-2007, 10:43 PM
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Country: | Yes, I have heard of cruise missiles. I do assume though that it would require some penetration to get those cruise missiles to a launchable position to do some damage. The Soviets would hardly let the B-52s linger in impunity at the edges of the radar net though... | |
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03-26-2007, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by HealzDevo Yes, I have heard of cruise missiles. I do assume though that it would require some penetration to get those cruise missiles to a launchable position to do some damage. | Nope! It was well known that a B-52 will never survive over Soviet Airspace at altitude and that's why its penetration role eventually changed Quote:
Originally Posted by HealzDevo The Soviets would hardly let the B-52s linger in impunity at the edges of the radar net though... | That it could - ECM - ever hear of it? The Soviets would never know it's there....
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03-26-2007, 08:49 AM
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#89 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Besides the B-52 would not start massive gravity bombing until air superiority was achieved. Remenber the first Gulf War? Once the radar and SAMs were taken out the B-52s conducted high altitude carpet bombing. They also did it again over Serbia in the late 1990s.
More than likely though they would do just what FBJ said, launch Cruise Missiles and the B-52 could carry 20 of the AGM-86B ACLM cruise missiles which had a range of 1500 miles. The B-52 did not have to get to close to the enemy to cause grave damage.
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03-28-2007, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt308 And while not the "best", certainly one of my all time favorites the B-58 Hustler. | Matt..
just seen your pic of the B58...one of my fave aircraft
never seen that pic before....still looks awesome
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