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07-24-2005, 02:18 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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I was at a military show the other day, and purchased myself this lovely shell, but I don't know what kind it is. My grandpa says it looks like an ani-aircraft shell, but I'm not sure. any ideas?
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07-24-2005, 03:05 PM
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#2 | | "Shooter"
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Country:  | It looks very similar to my 20mm that I have. Do you have the dimensions of it? That might help.
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07-24-2005, 04:01 PM
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#3 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Blue usually means a practice round
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07-24-2005, 11:46 PM
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Country:  | It looks similar to the WW2 Artillery Shells, we have that were used in Papua New Guinea. There is one that is used as a flower vase that has a similar neck on it. So maybe a practice Artillery round. | |
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07-25-2005, 01:49 AM
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Country:  | Ill go with you FBJ/Heal its a practice round but without dimensions its hard to say possibly a cannon round as it is waisted and has an ejector engaging channel
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07-25-2005, 07:54 AM
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#6 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Yep, my 20mm looks almost identical to it.
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07-25-2005, 02:35 PM
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#7 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Yeah it also looks like the 20mm I have. Based on the dimension in comparison with the background stuff I would guess it is a 20mm also. Normally if you look at the bottom of the shell it will tell you the size of round.
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07-27-2005, 09:21 AM
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Country: | Looks like a Bofors shell but definately a practise round | |
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07-27-2005, 09:29 AM
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#9 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | if you mean bofors as in the AA gun, then we're looking at a 40mm, and most people think it's a 20mm?? i don't know what it is......
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07-28-2005, 04:59 AM
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#10 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | It is deffinatly a training round and it deffinatly is a 20mm round, well that is what it looks like atleast.
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07-28-2005, 08:10 AM
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#11 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | I'm 90% sure that's a 20mm.
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07-28-2005, 06:13 PM
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Country: | I agree, I reakon it's 20 mm as well.
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07-28-2005, 09:32 PM
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Country:  | That is a 20mmx102mm cartrigde ( being first number refered to bullet diameter and the second to case lenght) with a TP bullet (Target Practice)
Is not from WWII, but a little more modern, it was introduced for the Pontiac M-39 20 mm revolver gun used in the Northrop F-5 Tiger II.
then was used in the famous M-61 Vulcan, the M61 20mm cannon is a proven gun, having been the US military's close-in weapon of choice dating back to the 1950s. The F-104, F-105, later models of the F-106, F-111, F-4, B-58, all used the M61, as does the Air Force's F-15 , F-16 and F-22, and the Navy's F-14 and F/A-18. The internally mounted 20mm cannon system is common to all versions of the F-15. This system combines the widely used (F-4, F-16, F-18 ) M61 cannon with 940 rounds (A through D models) or 500 rounds (E model) of ammunition.
Even the very new F-22 Raptor have an internal M-61 
Also is used in some german and french guns.
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07-29-2005, 04:02 AM
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#14 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | good info =D> (ok i could find the thumbs up one....)
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07-29-2005, 06:30 AM
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Country:  | Well done, Charles! 
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