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10-14-2007, 01:08 PM
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#32 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | I say good for them! Lets hit another a bit more to the east!!!
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10-15-2007, 10:55 AM
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#33 | | Banned
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Country: | I still have problems to believe the story.
Yes, it could be possible, but I fear it is only (again) a hoax.
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IT was just after midnight when the 69th Squadron of Israeli F15Is crossed the Syrian coast-line. On the ground, Syria’s formidable air defences went dead. An audacious raid on a Syrian target 50 miles from the Iraqi border was under way.
At a rendezvous point on the ground, a Shaldag air force commando team was waiting to direct their laser beams at the target for the approaching jets. The team had arrived a day earlier, taking up position near a large underground depot. Soon the bunkers were in flames.
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I' m pretty sure, there air force is equipped with the newest weapons and they always get the most modern guided bombs/rockets/missles from usa.
And I'm pretty sure, they have GPS guided bombs.
They bombed bunkers...
Bunkers are buildings, they don't run away. You just didn't need a special force team, who mark the targets! You just use the coordinates, which you got from the satelite pictures...
How does the special force team reach the target site? By helicopters? How did they get back? 
These are one of several questions, I have...
I have just not the time, to write more.
I'm have just not the time, to go online and if I'm online, I have to do something else... | |
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10-15-2007, 12:07 PM
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#34 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by T4.H  I still have problems to believe the story.
Yes, it could be possible, but I fear it is only (again) a hoax.
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IT was just after midnight when the 69th Squadron of Israeli F15Is crossed the Syrian coast-line. On the ground, Syria’s formidable air defences went dead. An audacious raid on a Syrian target 50 miles from the Iraqi border was under way.
At a rendezvous point on the ground, a Shaldag air force commando team was waiting to direct their laser beams at the target for the approaching jets. The team had arrived a day earlier, taking up position near a large underground depot. Soon the bunkers were in flames.
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I' m pretty sure, there air force is equipped with the newest weapons and they always get the most modern guided bombs/rockets/missles from usa.
And I'm pretty sure, they have GPS guided bombs.
They bombed bunkers...
Bunkers are buildings, they don't run away. You just didn't need a special force team, who mark the targets! You just use the coordinates, which you got from the satelite pictures...
How does the special force team reach the target site? By helicopters? How did they get back?
These are one of several questions, I have...
I have just not the time, to write more.
I'm have just not the time, to go online and if I'm online, I have to do something else... | I dont believe it either but painting a target with a laser is an extra measure of accuracy......
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10-15-2007, 01:06 PM
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#35 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Well the state department made a statment not denying it on the news yestarday.
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10-15-2007, 08:16 PM
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#36 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | T4.H. You show more than a little ignorance in this day of PC warfighting. I'm not going to dispute the claim of nuke facility or not. But to state that a ground contingent in the scenario obviates the logic is a bit naive. Les and Eric can tell you better than I ever could imagine in my feeble engineering brain, but a ground contingent affords (1) confidence in the target, (2) minimization of collateral damage on potential non-military target(s), (3) target destruction confirmation, and (4) post strike activity.
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10-15-2007, 11:03 PM
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#37 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Yep, pinpoint accuracy, verification of target destroyed and some damn good BDA (battle damage assessment). Sorry , but satellites and phot recon are no substitute for good old grunt work. Plus the team on the ground can provide further verification of a target before it is hit. Let's face it, good camouflage will hide things from satellites. GPS will only do you good if you know where the target is.
How they get in and out is something that I am sure will never be discussed. There is a certain amount of OPSec that must be maintained, should the need arise to again use the same methods.
You can fear it a hoax if you wish T4h, but it is not a hoax and there is far more to the story than you will ever read about or hear about on the news.
Bottom line, the Israelis did the right thing, and they did it well.
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10-16-2007, 06:51 AM
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#38 | | the old Sage
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Country: | lets face it the IDF or whatever name you want to give the military of Israel could very well be numero uno when it comes to planning and carrying out stealth operations in a quick and much effective manner ............ their past ops have shown this repeatedly with just precission. if given the chance Tehran's ruthless hierarchy could be shattered in a matter of seconds if willed, as well as Syrias or any other wanna be mideast ruling body | |
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10-21-2007, 07:14 PM
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#39 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Israel reportedly had spy in Syrian plant : World
Israel reportedly had spy in Syrian plant
WASHINGTON, Oct. 21 Israel had a spy inside the Syrian facility that its air force bombed last month, providing photographs that proved it was a nuclear plant, ABC News reported.
ABC cited a source described as a senior U.S. official who said the Israeli intelligence agency, the Mossad, either recruited a worker at the facility or got one of its own agents hired.
The official described the facility as being deep inside Syria near the Euphrates River in an area "where no one would ever go unless you had a reason to go there." He said the Israeli photographs showed a structure with thick reinforced walls and a pumping station.
The design was North Korean, the official said.
The United States reportedly refused to take action because the facility was still under construction and several years away from completion, and because there was no fissionable material there.
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10-24-2007, 09:44 AM
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#40 | | Senior Member
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| More on the "hoax"...  ....As some have put it.. Photos said to show Israeli target in Syria - Washington Post - MSNBC.com
And on the "using a man on the ground to spot"... Thats how "I" would do it ...It shows Syria that someone "can" get that close to what there doing..Having a man on the ground was a good "PR" move for Israeli...Its like the B-52 ..It just works for the job..And why use high tec...When low tec will do the job..Do all young people real think "new is good ..and old is bad".. .. | |
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10-24-2007, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Haztoys More on the "hoax"... ....As some have put it.. Photos said to show Israeli target in Syria - Washington Post - MSNBC.com
And on the "using a man on the ground to spot"... Thats how "I" would do it ...It shows Syria that someone "can" get that close to what there doing..Having a man on the ground was a good "PR" move for Israeli...Its like the B-52 ..It just works for the job..And why use high tec...When low tec will do the job..Do all young people real think "new is good ..and old is bad".. .. |
Finally a credible news source..... thanks
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10-29-2007, 10:49 AM
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#43 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Here's an interesting article about this whole deal. A good read.
"We Came so Close to WW3 That Day" We came so close to World War Three that day
__________________ "I had ten rockets on board, and as I wasn't particularly fond of head-on attacks, I salvoed the whole lot at him. The rockets didn't hit him but but they must have scared the bejesus out of him, for he did a steep turn to starboard... I let him have the full blast, all eight fifty-calibers. I had never seen an aircraft completely disintegrate in the air the way this Me-110 did..."
Bill Dunn, 406th Fighter Group
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10-29-2007, 11:16 AM
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#44 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | That was a good read. Interesting story and great post.
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10-29-2007, 11:36 AM
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#45 | | Senior Member
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Country: | It's pretty freak'n sad that I have to hear about this on a warbirds forum..
where is the rest of the press?
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... I'm sure they disposed of the nuke waste properly ........................................NOT..
