Main battle tanks of today.....

[Lucky13]

Pardon my French but, wtf is plasma force fields??

[comiso90]

new korean tank:

YouTube - South Korea Next Generation Main Battle Tank XK2 ??

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[comiso90]

Originally Posted by Lucky13

Pardon my French but, wtf is plasma force fields??

There is a lot of research into developing "plasma windows"..
Certainly a long way off from being usable but its interesting:


Plasma window - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Plasma Science and Technology - Basics - Overview

[DBII]

The armor school was working on the Sci-fi version back in the 90s. They have to be getting close to completion. The MBTs are getting as complex as the aircraft. Audio detectors to locate firing positions. They are working on a system the project a digital image of the surrounding terrian on the sides of the tank. TOWs are opticaly guided and controled by wires. If the view of the BMT can be masked it will be harder to hit. Yes a stealth MBT. There is some sort of damping system to reduce the IR siggy. I have not figured out how that works. The noise level is still a problem. If helios can be made quite, I guess the MBT can be. I raid that the plasma, rail guns and lasers are being tested. My guess is that information released for the public is at lease 10 years old.

DBII

[seesul]

Originally Posted by DBII

Seesul, nice picture. I am also an old tanker. I trained on the M60 series and M1 series. 7 minutes...you are lucky. Our Col always said that if we did not destory 7 MBT and were dead in 2 mins we were not doing our jobs...
Our yearly evaluations would reflect our poor skills....lol

DBII
clank, clank, clank

think you´re right with two minutes, it sounds better to me...
Anyway, never in my life I had better fun behind the wheel (or levels) than driving a tank...

[lesofprimus]

Well, Ive read all ur posts fellas, and it still goes back to the same old story for me:

Which one has performed better in armored conflict???

Simple answer.... The Abrams... Its combat record alone makes it #1, whatever the opponent dead tank is....

[seesul]

...and what about Russian T2000 Black Eagle? Unfortunately there´s not too much infos about it on Internet...

BLACK EAGLE Main Battle Tank

Altough I know it never seen combat, it doesn´t look bad...

[seesul]

Originally Posted by lesofprimus

Well, Ive read all ur posts fellas, and it still goes back to the same old story for me:

Which one has performed better in armored conflict???

Simple answer.... The Abrams... Its combat record alone makes it #1, whatever the opponent dead tank is....

yes, you´re right probably. In desert storm there were even some Abrams opponents to Abrams. Few Abrams destroyed by friendly fire...Don´t know if by Abrams or another gun. I don´t belive in wikipedia too much M1 Abrams - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[DBII]

Originally Posted by seesul

yes, you´re right probably. In desert storm there were even some Abrams opponents to Abrams. Few Abrams destroyed by friendly fire...Don´t know if by Abrams or another gun. I don´t belive in wikipedia too much M1 Abrams - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is always that OOPs factor

DBII

[SoD Stitch]

Originally Posted by seesul

yes, you´re right probably. In desert storm there were even some Abrams opponents to Abrams. Few Abrams destroyed by friendly fire...Don´t know if by Abrams or another gun. I don´t belive in wikipedia too much M1 Abrams - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

. . . . and I don't know how much to believe Tom Clancy, but in his book Armored Cavalry - A Guided Tour of an Armored Cavalry Regiment (1994) he mentions an Abrams that got stuck in mud and was not able to be recovered, even with two other Abrams tanks trying to pull it out. It was decided to destroy it with a thermite grenade, but the on-board fire suppression system put the fire out as soon as it started. Then it was deciced to destroy the tank with a couple of 120mm rounds from the other two Abrams, but none of the rounds fired from point-blank range penetrated the DU armor (supposedly). The tank was finally "destroyed" by an air strike (F-18's, I think), but the tank was later recovered and repaired.

[Henk]

The Leopard 2 is the best all round tank.

[SeaSkua]

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

From my understanding the new Leopard 2A-6 from my undestanding has the edge based on technology, armour, and capability.

It is however not battle proven.

EDIT: The Leopard 2 has been in combat (just not tank to tank combat). The Canadians are using the A6 in Afghanistan.

Can you believe the IDIOTS up here are PROTESTING that we got them? They say that too many soldiers are dying in AFGANISTAN - - then complain that the Government bought the better armored LEP - 2's for the Army! Maybe we should go back to VALENTINE tanks! Huh?

[Lucky13]

Aren't the Challenger II the fastest tank in the world, over rough terrain?

[DBII]

I would not believe everthing in the book. If a tank was stuck and the Plt could not retrieve it, the normal procedure would be to bring in the Trp's M-88to pull it out. It that did not work then the Sqdrn's M88 would be brought in and the two of them could extract it. The M88 is a powerful mofo. It can drag a M1 across the ground without much trouble. The thermite is put inside the breach to destory the breachblock and maybe one on the engine. The helon fire surpression system is amazing. It detects fire in milli seconds. It was designed to reduce the damage to the interior electronics by removing the air from the crew compartments. If the M1 had the 105 mm cannon, it would have had trouble with a head on kill and 2 - 3 km but not at battle site, 800 m. Sounds like it was a good story though. It is hard to imagine a situation during the Gulf War when the area was not secured enough to extract an M1.

[Lucky13]

Was just thinking earlier tonight....(I know...just shut up will you!)... If Challenger II, Abrams and what not would be today's Sherman, T-34 etc.... what would the figures be for the equivalent of a Panther, Tiger and Tiger II if they'd have the same advantage today as they had in WWII?