 | Main battle tanks of today.....| Modern Discuss Main battle tanks of today..... in the Other Eras forums; All I know is that there's allot of commotion around this issue at the moment, and it seems esp. ... |
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05-05-2008, 06:53 PM
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| All I know is that there's allot of commotion around this issue at the moment, and it seems esp. SAAB is gaining an edge as their prize tag and delivery plan seems to fit more of the customers.
Are you saying you havent heard about this before Matt ??
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05-05-2008, 06:58 PM
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Country:  | I absolutely have. And I understand the issue. It is not about upgrades, it is about indigenous maintenance at major checks for the stealth aspects and ability to modify core software. Both claimed as essential for an independent nation to upkeep their air assets and qualify them for future compatibility with different mission software, weapon payload and C4I. I understand.
But if no likey, buy Saab. And I would suggest, buy many.
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05-05-2008, 07:16 PM
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| IMO Lockheed should make it available, they'd score allot of costumers that way I'm sure, esp. seeing many of the nations are really enthustiastic about the VTOL design as that will mean much smaller airfields are needed. Quote: |
And I would suggest, buy many.
| Why buy many ?
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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05-05-2008, 07:32 PM
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05-05-2008, 07:33 PM
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| Hehe not always..
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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05-05-2008, 08:47 PM
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Where abouts in Germany do you live in Soren?
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05-05-2008, 09:11 PM
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| Despite what you believe I don't live in Germany.
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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05-05-2008, 09:14 PM
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Country: | Oh. I saw Adler ask you a few times and you didn't respond. The Mods can trace your IP, so I just assumed.
Tell me my guess is right, you are a states boy.
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05-05-2008, 09:17 PM
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Country: | Besides... I couldn't figure out why you would be prowling around this site at 0530 German local time. 
So whereabouts, Soren?
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05-05-2008, 09:26 PM
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| Never told anyone and wont for some time  As I said in another thread, I appreciate my anonymity.
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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05-05-2008, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt308  Besides... I couldn't figure out why you would be prowling around this site at 0530 German local time. | Well I do live within that time zone (It's 4:30 btw), and the reason I'm up this late is that I'm on watch
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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05-05-2008, 10:33 PM
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Country: | And Soren, there you have a friend. Enuf said. May I ask your nationality though.
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05-05-2008, 11:04 PM
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And Soren, there you have a friend. Enuf said.
| What do you mean ? Quote: |
May I ask your nationality though.
| You may ask, but I wont tell 
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
- Adolf Galland
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05-06-2008, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt308
Where abouts in Germany do you live in Soren?
| He does not live in Germany. He is in Denmark.
Same timezone though.
Great place but very expensive. I was offered a job up in Denmark and I turned it down only because of the taxes.
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05-06-2008, 02:29 AM
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Country:  | Is it true that the Canucks have not replaced their MBTs, instead opting for a 105mm armed vehicle called the "Stryker". The whole issue of MBT replacement is very topical at the moment. The US, has for example, found that it has never used more than 25% of the available tank forces at its disposal, whereas its Infantry formations are strained to the limit. The rough rule of thumb is that for every armoured formation available, there is a need for an equivalent three or four Mech inf formations. Neither the US nor Australia are able to field that many Mech Inf units, so the force structure appears to be "tank heavy".
The other consideration is whether or not MBTs are now basically obsolete. I am personally completely undecided, but strong debate rages around this very issue. Are MBTs simply too vulnerable, given the multiple (and cheap) threats that can be brought against them. In Australias case, we have been involved in perhaps half a dozen limited wars since the end of Vietnam, and our tank forces have not been utilized in a single one. The US at least has used their armour, but it appears their forces are a bit top heavy,
Its an interesting and as yet unresolved debate. The Australian solution has been to go for a half measure, we are replacing our 103 Leopard Is with 59 second hand, and cheap, Abrams tanks for the time being. Looks for all the world like a wait and see procurement to me
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