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Nonskimmer · 08-21-2005, 12:58 PM

Did that guy in the A-6 survive?

lesofprimus · 08-21-2005, 01:00 PM

Yes...

evangilder · 08-21-2005, 01:03 PM

I've seen the A-6 shots before, but don't know the story. The Blue Angels shot is awesome!

cheddar cheese · 08-22-2005, 11:04 AM

Cool shots!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-30-2005, 05:44 PM

The A-6 guy did survive and one of the things that saved him was the fact that parachute was wrapped around the tail of the aircraft keeping him from being sliced and diced by the shards of glass of the broken canopy. At least that is what the flight fax said that my dad brough home a while back.

Gnomey · 08-30-2005, 05:54 PM

Nice pics Les, still amazing that he managed to survive, doesn't look pleasant.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-30-2005, 08:26 PM

I am sure it was not.

lesofprimus · 09-24-2005, 12:14 AM

More....

the lancaster kicks ass · 09-24-2005, 04:33 AM

some pretty amazing shots there..........

Gnomey · 09-24-2005, 09:32 AM

Yes nice shots, the SU-27 shot is amazing.

evangilder · 09-24-2005, 10:28 AM

Cool stuff, Les! The Oh%20Shit.jpg shot is actually something that F-111s do (or did) on a frequent basis. It is called dump and burn. The fuel dump is right between the exhausts on the 111. They dump some fuel, then light the afterburners and whoosh! It looks like a freaking flamethrower. It looks really cool at night.

So why do they do that? One is to dump fuel for an in-flight emergency to get rid of fuel fast. But I do know of at least 2 other cases where they were used for other reasons.

During the Libya raid, Col. Fzackerly <sp> saw one of his flight trying to find the group to form up for the ride home. The just went 'feet dry' and had to maintain radio silence. The colonel did a quick dump and burn to signal his wingman where they were.

During an operational exercise off of Italy, near Comiso IIRC, 2 f-111s were jumped by a hotshot F-16 pilot who had been briefed not to get to close. Someone wasn't listening. The aardvarks were at a fairly low level with their wings swept forward. Not the ideal position to get caught in. The Falcon driver got right up on the tail of the lead wingman, who performed a classic dump and burn. Melted the canopy on the F-16 and burned all the paint off!. It was a good thing he was below, or he would have gotten an intake-full also that would have flamed him out.

Must have been a sight to see a charred F-16 landing!

Nonskimmer · 09-24-2005, 10:41 AM

I'll bet the guy in the F-16 sh*t his pants. Try explaining that one!

Great pics les!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 09-24-2005, 12:01 PM

Amazing pics.

Wildcat · 09-25-2005, 09:23 AM

Yep the F 111 dump and burn is awesome, seen it many times. The RAAF do it quite abit at special events, airshows, the Indy etc.

evangilder · 09-25-2005, 10:43 AM

Yep, I remember watching it during the Y2K celebrations. Still a site to behold. I don't recall seeing the USAF do it for anything other than to dump fuel. I have seen it much more often from the Aussies.

08-21-2005, 01:00 PM	#32
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,506	Yes... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

08-21-2005, 01:03 PM	#33
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	I've seen the A-6 shots before, but don't know the story. The Blue Angels shot is awesome! __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

08-30-2005, 05:44 PM	#35
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	The A-6 guy did survive and one of the things that saved him was the fact that parachute was wrapped around the tail of the aircraft keeping him from being sliced and diced by the shards of glass of the broken canopy. At least that is what the flight fax said that my dad brough home a while back. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

08-30-2005, 05:54 PM	#36
Gnomey "World Traveller" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 15,224	Nice pics Les, still amazing that he managed to survive, doesn't look pleasant. __________________ "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr

08-30-2005, 08:26 PM	#37
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	I am sure it was not. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

08-21-2005, 12:58 PM	#31
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	Did that guy in the A-6 survive?

08-22-2005, 11:04 AM	#34
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Cool shots!

09-24-2005, 04:33 AM	#39
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	some pretty amazing shots there.......... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

09-24-2005, 09:32 AM	#40
Gnomey "World Traveller" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 15,224	Yes nice shots, the SU-27 shot is amazing. __________________ "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr

09-24-2005, 10:28 AM	#41
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Cool stuff, Les! The Oh%20Shit.jpg shot is actually something that F-111s do (or did) on a frequent basis. It is called dump and burn. The fuel dump is right between the exhausts on the 111. They dump some fuel, then light the afterburners and whoosh! It looks like a freaking flamethrower. It looks really cool at night. So why do they do that? One is to dump fuel for an in-flight emergency to get rid of fuel fast. But I do know of at least 2 other cases where they were used for other reasons. During the Libya raid, Col. Fzackerly <sp> saw one of his flight trying to find the group to form up for the ride home. The just went 'feet dry' and had to maintain radio silence. The colonel did a quick dump and burn to signal his wingman where they were. During an operational exercise off of Italy, near Comiso IIRC, 2 f-111s were jumped by a hotshot F-16 pilot who had been briefed not to get to close. Someone wasn't listening. The aardvarks were at a fairly low level with their wings swept forward. Not the ideal position to get caught in. The Falcon driver got right up on the tail of the lead wingman, who performed a classic dump and burn. Melted the canopy on the F-16 and burned all the paint off!. It was a good thing he was below, or he would have gotten an intake-full also that would have flamed him out. Must have been a sight to see a charred F-16 landing! __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

09-24-2005, 10:41 AM	#42
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	I'll bet the guy in the F-16 sh*t his pants. Try explaining that one! Great pics les!

09-24-2005, 12:01 PM	#43
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Amazing pics. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

09-25-2005, 09:23 AM	#44
Wildcat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Queensland Posts: 4,543	Yep the F 111 dump and burn is awesome, seen it many times. The RAAF do it quite abit at special events, airshows, the Indy etc. __________________

09-25-2005, 10:43 AM	#45
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Yep, I remember watching it during the Y2K celebrations. Still a site to behold. I don't recall seeing the USAF do it for anything other than to dump fuel. I have seen it much more often from the Aussies. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

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