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05-01-2007, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet  And why do they have to conscript there soldiers?
Because if they did not not eneogh would join the military.
The all Voluntary Military is still the most efficient because only the people who wish to be there are there. | Because the population is so small...
I'm not saying that the US is not efficient... it's just second... because of it's size, bueracrocy and motivational factors.
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05-01-2007, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet  Come on over and try! | Let's settle this over a few pints and drams mate....less blood that way. 
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05-01-2007, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 Let's settle this over a few pints and drams mate....less blood that way. | Ill drink the that! 
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05-01-2007, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by comiso90 Because the population is so small...
I'm not saying that the US is not efficient... it's just second... because of it's size, bueracrocy and motivational factors. | You pit the IDF agianst the US and it would not stand a chance. Fortunatly it would not happen.
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet E1s do not make that much money, unless they are married and overseas.
However if you take all the extra pay that a soldier gets, there is no military in the world that pays its soldiers better than the US military. | I justed compared and at present exchange rates the CAF makes more then you guys in US dollars
US Canada
E1 1301 2100
E5 2174 3200
E8 2881 4000
I did a rough conversion with the exchange rates and was generous at 15% this is no spec trades or danger or flight or diving pay
I believe the Aussies are also paid better
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet You pit the IDF agianst the US and it would not stand a chance. Fortunatly it would not happen. | The thread is not who is the mightiest..
Certainly the US would win... maybe just with the marines.
it is about who is the most efficient...
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Originally Posted by comiso90 The thread is not who is the mightiest..
Certainly the US would win... maybe just with the marines.
| For the sake of a quiet life, I won't say anything....
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05-01-2007, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 For the sake of a quiet life, I won't say anything.... | Well the marines and and 3 carriers.
The Army can sleep in.
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Originally Posted by comiso90 The thread is not who is the mightiest..
Certainly the US would win... maybe just with the marines.
it is about who is the most efficient... | Man - I haven't been on for a few days and look at all this! Find me a foreign force of roughly 30,000 men that can stand up to a signle USMC MEF.
USMC definitely fits this description - most effective and efficient.
Thanks for playing 
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05-01-2007, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot I justed compared and at present exchange rates the CAF makes more then you guys in US dollars
US Canada
E1 1301 2100
E5 2174 3200
E8 2881 4000
I did a rough conversion with the exchange rates and was generous at 15% this is no spec trades or danger or flight or diving pay
I believe the Aussies are also paid better | Adler how well does the US forces get paid whilst on operations? When I was in the Gulf I was getting $200 a day danger money + sea going allowance (or field allowance) + my normal wage all Tax free. Needless to say my 7 months away earned me quite a bit of money!
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Originally Posted by mkloby Man - I haven't been on for a few days and look at all this! Find me a foreign force of roughly 30,000 men that can stand up to a signle USMC MEF.
USMC definitely fits this description - most effective and efficient.
Thanks for playing | If u noticed I singled out the USMC before. Their smaller numbers make them more efficient.
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 For the sake of a quiet life, I won't say anything.... | So - what do we mean by that???
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Country: | Since we aren't included up here I must be impartial and I'll pick the Aussies the only thing they probably lack is cold weather work . Would've picked the Brits but don't like the class distinction between ranks and commissioned guys
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Country: | Just let's us say that they (USMC) couldn't handle our week long march.... We march more on one day than some others do under a week....
Could be the fresh mountain air too. My personal opinion is that they couldn't concentratem because of all the blonde, blue eyed, long legged and big breasted birds.....
Fantastic bunch of people they were.
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 Just let's us say that they (USMC) couldn't handle our week long march.... We march more on one day than some others do under a week....
Could be the fresh mountain air too. My personal opinion is that they couldn't concentratem because of all the blonde, blue eyed, long legged and big breasted birds.....
Fantastic bunch of people they were. | Have you ever seen them march on TV, god, i shout at the T.V.
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