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05-02-2007, 04:39 AM
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05-02-2007, 09:09 AM
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#32 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by comiso90  The thread is not who is the mightiest..
Certainly the US would win... maybe just with the marines.
it is about who is the most efficient... |
I agree and I dont think that anyone out there is more efficient. The US military can make the most out of any situation. No other military can project its power as the US can. It also has the most support from any of the other services than any military in the world. The joint operations conducted by all these services together is what gets the job done.
__________________  US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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05-02-2007, 09:12 AM
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#33 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Wildcat Adler how well does the US forces get paid whilst on operations? When I was in the Gulf I was getting $200 a day danger money + sea going allowance (or field allowance) + my normal wage all Tax free. Needless to say my 7 months away earned me quite a bit of money! | When I was deployed I was brining in my normal wage, flightpay, my housing allowance (because my rent back in Germany still had to be paid), my Cost of Living Allowance (because my family was still in Germany), Seperate rations (but I recieved that in Germany anyhow because I was aircrew and married), Hostile Fire Pay, and Family Seperation Pay.
And all of that was Tax Free. I was bringing in close to 6000 a month.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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05-02-2007, 09:13 AM
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#34 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars Have you ever seen them march on TV, god, i shout at the T.V.
"Dig In Youre Left Heel, GODDD!"  | We dont march like you guys, because we dont want to look like you guys. Not everyone things it looks great...
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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05-02-2007, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 Just let's us say that they (USMC) couldn't handle our week long march....  We march more on one day than some others do under a week....
Could be the fresh mountain air too.  My personal opinion is that they couldn't concentratem because of all the blonde, blue eyed, long legged and big breasted birds.....
Fantastic bunch of people they were. | Yeah yeah yeah - every european proudly touts their hardness and unsurpassed marching ability with conceit... same old story. Then there's always the "our forces are smaller and better trained" myth. If that's what it takes for you to puff out your chest my friend, go ahead. How many US Marines have you trained with, since you are so quick ridicule their abilities?
Not to mention no combat experience as an organization.
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05-02-2007, 09:54 AM
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#36 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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05-02-2007, 10:06 AM
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05-02-2007, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 | The "truth" that is just a baseless declaration w/o any foundation? You criticize qualities qualities of an military organization that you know virtually nothing about. About the only thing hurt here is your credibility.
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05-02-2007, 10:14 AM
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#39 | | Der Crewchief
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05-02-2007, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet When I was deployed I was brining in my normal wage, flightpay, my housing allowance (because my rent back in Germany still had to be paid), my Cost of Living Allowance (because my family was still in Germany), Seperate rations (but I recieved that in Germany anyhow because I was aircrew and married), Hostile Fire Pay, and Family Seperation Pay.
And all of that was Tax Free. I was bringing in close to 6000 a month. | If efficient equals, cost effective then UK should win. I know it was a long time ago and may well have changed now, but when I was deployed I didn't get any danger money, hostile fire money or other extras for having the pleasure of being shot at. It was deemed as being expected when you joined. | |
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05-02-2007, 10:18 AM
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#41 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Glider If efficient equals, cost effective then UK should win. I know it was a long time ago and may well have changed now, but when I was deployed I didn't get any danger money, hostile fire money or other extras for having the pleasure of being shot at. It was deemed as being expected when you joined. | Well that is what is good about the US military. It takes care of its soldiers. Most of those allowances I recieved whether I was deployed or not. The Army paid the rent on my house, they gave me COLA to adjust to the high cost of living in Germany, they gave me Seperate Rations to buy food for my family and flight pay I recieved regardless if I was deployed or not because that was my job, I flew every day.
The only extra allowances for being deployed were the Hostile Fire Pay and the Family Seperation Pay.
The only real good thing was that it was tax free and there was nothign to spend money on in the desert so you save a butt load of money.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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05-02-2007, 10:35 AM
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It's true that I maybe just spent 16 months in the Rangers, I can easily count the nights that I spent in the bed on the regiment and not out in the bushes playing war, but as Sweden doesn't have a professional army like you guys, the UK and some others we have to train harder to keep up with the big boys....
What happened back then has absolutely nothing to do with ridiculing anyone or their proffesionalism (is that even a word ) in the field of conflict....
It's true that I only trained the with USMC once, but had I chosen to stay with in the military it would possibly happened more times and not only with them. I want you to remember one thing and one thing only, I have the outmost respect for the USMC and nothing will ever change that. These were some of the best guys that I've ever met, too bad that I lost the contact with those that I got to know.
I'm sorry if I stepped on your toes...
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05-02-2007, 11:03 AM
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It's true it's true.
We spend less on our military then France, UK, Germany, Japan, Israel, USA and most other nations on the planet.
But we are the safest nation on the planet..........no one would dare invade us!
Who can boast spending less then us on its military (and yet have so much natural resources and valuable territory that people would love to take from us)......and yet be as safe as we are from invasion? No one.
Canada is #1 hands down.
Who can argue that point?
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05-02-2007, 01:23 PM
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#44 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 I'm not gonna go into a war of words here fellas, it's not worth it. I respect you guys too much go where you start to call each other names etc...
It's true that I maybe just spent 16 months in the Rangers, I can easily count the nights that I spent in the bed on the regiment and not out in the bushes playing war, but as Sweden doesn't have a professional army like you guys, the UK and some others we have to train harder to keep up with the big boys... | Hey I was just giving you a hard time...
Like you like to joke with me in other threads I was doing the same with you here.
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05-02-2007, 01:30 PM
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Damn!
Oooh.....look at the time...
What's that?
Ok, I'll be right over....
Sorry, need to dash....
---------------------------------------------------->> Ziiiip!
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