 | MV-22 Osprey| Modern Discuss MV-22 Osprey in the Other Eras forums; Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass
yes but that doesn't change the fact it's Rolls Royce with ... |
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12-10-2006, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass  yes but that doesn't change the fact it's Rolls Royce with the experience in this area and it's British engineering that made it all work........ | Um and the fact that the British test pilots had to be sent to the United States so that they could get VTOL exeperience from the US's Bell X-14, which first flew in the 1950s to test VTOL capabilities.
The things learned from the X-14 were given to the British to help build the Harrier. It was knowledge that helped develop the Harriers capabilites.
A test squadron was set up in England made up of 10 test pilots from England, the US and Germany to test the P.1127 which led to the Harrier and decide what needed to be done to develop it.
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12-10-2006, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot Aside from the improvments in technology over 40 years whats the major difference between the CL 84 and Osprey or was it a case that it wasn't made there | The major difference is that that thing is too damn Ugly to be used by the USMC, USN, USAF, or US Army.... 
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12-10-2006, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet The major difference is that that thing is too damn Ugly to be used by the USMC, USN, USAF, or US Army.... | That and the fact that the MV-22 now has capabilities that it could never be dreamed of then...
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12-10-2006, 06:17 PM
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| One thing that would worry me about the Ospray and that would be its engine out performance. Its a heck of a big plane and the engine would produce a lot of drag.
Whilst I am sure they have it covered I wonder how marginal it would be as the wing isn't large enough to produce much lift compared to its size. | |
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12-10-2006, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Glider One thing that would worry me about the Ospray and that would be its engine out performance. Its a heck of a big plane and the engine would produce a lot of drag.
Whilst I am sure they have it covered I wonder how marginal it would be as the wing isn't large enough to produce much lift compared to its size. | I'm gonna see if I can get my hands on an MV-22 NATOPS manual to solve some of these questions...
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12-10-2006, 06:22 PM
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12-10-2006, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet The major difference is that that thing is too damn Ugly to be used by the USMC, USN, USAF, or US Army.... | Point taken I've seen some of the mugs of your aircrew plastered up against the plexiglass and it wouldn't be nice to see so much ugly at the same time so giving them a pretty airplane equals it out
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12-10-2006, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet How long till you start flying the beast, mkloby? | I have to put in 70 hours in the TC-12 which should take till april, then another 70 or so in the TH-57, which will take until sep I'm guessing... then it's MV-22 time! I have some ways to go still. Quote:
Originally Posted by pbfoot Point taken I've seen some of the mugs of your aircrew plastered up against the plexiglass and it wouldn't be nice to see so much ugly at the same time so giving them a pretty airplane equals it out | those must have been air force guys... naval aviators have to be good looking! If we're not, we just put on the leather jacket and play top gun theme 
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we just put on the leather jacket and play top gun theme
| Amen to that!!! Anyway, I have heard from the rumor mill that the Osprey is being considered for the gunship role, much like the C-130, although probably with less powerful armament. Is there any merit to this rumor? On another not, I have read that the Osprey can be equiped with a .50 cal somewhere on the plane, my question is where? | |
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12-11-2006, 01:51 PM
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Country: | .50cal ramp gun is in the work. The Air Force just began production of the CV-22 for use w/ special ops command. I'm not sure exactly what they'll be using them for though.
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Originally Posted by mkloby
those must have been air force guys... naval aviators have to be good looking! If we're not, we just put on the leather jacket and play top gun theme |
Being from Pensacola, I can tell you that my sister told me that she had never met a bad looking Naval aviator. She didn't say anything about Marines, however. Don't know if that means anything.
As a young guy growing up there, the competition was tough. Lost my first girlfriend to a Naval aviator. Marriage didn't last however. Serves her right! Actually worked out great for me, married a wonderful girl. | |
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Originally Posted by davparlr Being from Pensacola, I can tell you that my sister told me that she had never met a bad looking Naval aviator. She didn't say anything about Marines, however. Don't know if that means anything.
As a young guy growing up there, the competition was tough. Lost my first girlfriend to a Naval aviator. Marriage didn't last however. Serves her right! Actually worked out great for me, married a wonderful girl. | Hey - Marines are still "naval aviators!" It's in our MOS. It's official 
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