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12-12-2006, 08:15 AM
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Country:  | As a young Student Naval Aviator 34 years ago, I married a different
girl every weekend. I'm sure things haven't changed! And Marine pilots most
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12-12-2006, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by twoeagles  As a young Student Naval Aviator 34 years ago, I married a different
girl every weekend. I'm sure things haven't changed! | 34 years ago I was diving C-141s around the world, visiting places like Greenland, Iceland (P-3 Base), England, Sweden, Germany, Spain, Azores, Italy, Greece, Crypus, Lebenon, Jordan, Israel, Iran, Ethopia, Ivory Coast, Japan, Thailand, and of course dear Vietnam. Of course, one concrete runway is just like another. I never found a place nicer than the US. One of my warmest memories was hearing "MACXXXXX, this Boston Center, we have you in radar contact." I could relax, I knew the controllers knew what they were doing.
Two of my cousins married Navy pilots, one a chopper, and another a twin beech (old dude). Both were great guys, but we had typical discussions about the AF and Navy. Quote:
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| As an Air Force pilot I can say, gee, that's not saying much about the Marines. Actually, I was a big fan of the Navy and went to all their airshows and watch the Blue Angels practice overhead. If it hadn't been for a Navy Flight Surgeon not signing my flight physical, I would have been in the Navy. Worked out best for me though, no regrets. I got to fly two great planes, the T-38 and the C-141. Air Force life is a better life. Navy has better base locations, though. | |
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12-12-2006, 11:45 AM
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#33 | | Der Crewchief
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| I certainly wouldn't say the Fa 269 was a common design theory in 1933 when Dr. Heinrich Karl Johann Focke came up with it!
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12-12-2006, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Twitch I certainly wouldn't say the Fa 269 was a common design theory in 1933 when Dr. Heinrich Karl Johann Focke came up with it! | Not a design theory, as the design is complex, taking into account the power and weights needed for military service - but a common aviation theory that received much attention - taking off vertically, and flying like fixed wing.
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12-13-2006, 10:51 AM
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True enough but the reason the Germans couldn't go forward then was that considerable development was needed for the special gearboxes, drives, pivoting mechanisms and prop pitch controls for landing and taking off. Too many other priorities in the Reich at the time.
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Originally Posted by Twitch
True enough but the reason the Germans couldn't go forward then was that considerable development was needed for the special gearboxes, drives, pivoting mechanisms and prop pitch controls for landing and taking off. Too many other priorities in the Reich at the time. |
Not to mention the unknown engineering design necessary to make the daggone thing work! Look what tons of computers and talented engineers had to do to make the V-22 work, well, maybe work. Ideas and concepts are dime a dozen and things like VTOL, flying wings and others look good and maybe even be modeled or demonstrated, but turning them into a fighting and working machine is a whole different story. | |
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12-13-2006, 12:34 PM
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#38 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Got to go with dave on this one. I dont think the Germans could have gotten it going by 1945. They had to many priorities and look how long the US has been working on the V-22 and how many problems they have had with it and how many have died in the process. It was not a project to be had during the time of WW2.
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Got to go with dave on this one. I dont think the Germans could have gotten it going by 1945. They had to many priorities and look how long the US has been working on the V-22 and how many problems they have had with it and how many have died in the process. It was not a project to be had during the time of WW2. | I think first flight was 1989!
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12-13-2006, 06:25 PM
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Country: | Thought you guys might want to see this. Rather interesting. According to this chart only the development lifecycle has been longer. As I recall (at least a few years ago), a Class A is $1M or more damage.
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12-13-2006, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt308 Thought you guys might want to see this. Rather interesting. According to this chart only the development lifecycle has been longer. As I recall (at least a few years ago), a Class A is $1M or more damage.
From THE HELICOPTER PAGE | Class A is 1mil or more in damage, but also a fatality regardless of damage...
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Country: | And for those who think this is new technology. Here some aircraft that were conceived late 40s to early fifties. Others from the 60s. First tilt rotor to take off - transition to level flight - land vertically was in 1956.
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12-13-2006, 08:30 PM
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Country: | Nice pics Matt. THrow on the massive size of the MV-22, it's gross weight capabilities, the power needed for that, and to transmit this power SAFELY and RELIABLY, that's the big problem posing the tiltrotor.
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Originally Posted by mkloby Class A is 1mil or more in damage, but also a fatality regardless of damage... | Thanks Mkloby. I couldn't remember.
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