P38 Pilots name for the F-35.

[the lancaster kicks ass]

i like the name boomerang for an aircraft..........

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

You also like French bombers.

Boomerang is one of the better stupid names though.

[JeffK]

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

Yeah okay, like you Australians really have room to talk.

First of all you rarely build your own aircraft, you buy yours from the US. If you dont like the names of the US aircraft dont buy them anymore, build your own.

Second name me one Australian built aircraft with a decent name?

I cant.

Lets see here we go:

CA-1 Wirraway

CA. 12 Boomerang Who the hell would name an aircraft a Boomerang?

GAF N24/N22 Nomad A little better I guess.

PL-12 Airtruk Truk is spelled Truck

PL-12U Flying Mango Yeah I would be real proud of that one. "What do you fly?"....."A flying Fruit!" Real good one there....


CAC Winjeel

CAC Woomara

CAC Wackett

Ha ha,

I'm sure the German aircraft Industry is pouring out sufficient Aircraft for its needs, oh yes, the TYPHOON II. Maybe thats where the replacement will be the Spitfire II.

(Whats a Flying Mango??)

Wirraway = Challenge in the indigenous lingo.
Boomerang = An Aboriginal weapon.
Woomera = Another aboriginal weapon, used as a sling to throw a spear further.
Wackett = Named after Sir Lawrence Wackett, one of the first Australian Aircraft designers.
Winjeel = Young Eagle, a training aircraft.
You missed the Ceres, an Agricultural Sprayer,
The PL12 Airtruk, a New Zealand designed aircraft, when Transavia decided to upgraded it it couldnt use the same name so dropped the "C" .
The PL12U was the Airtruk with the spray tanks removed and 5 seats fitted.

Yep, we have to buy foreign aircraft, our peacable Nation of only 20 millions doesnt have the long military history af many others nor the need to waste it money on developing a first line military aviation industry.

Thanks for the list, I learned a little bit more.

[plan_D]

Australia has a massive military history. And those in other nations respect the ANZAC contribution to any war. The ANZACs were, and are, well known to be brave and skillful in combat.

Australia would do itself a few big favours with a development of an aviation industry. It's not just beneficial for ones own military, but the developments can provide money from abroad in sales and technology. And create diplomatic ties. Australia is big enough, and has the money to create this industry. But it seems, along with Canada, they've not thought it through and simply buy American.

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Originally Posted by JeffK

Ha ha,

I'm sure the German aircraft Industry is pouring out sufficient Aircraft for its needs, oh yes, the TYPHOON II. Maybe thats where the replacement will be the Spitfire II.

Hey buddy before you comment, why dont you do some research here first. Im not German! I am a US citizen who was born and raised in Germany and still lives there while stationed there in the US Army. So maybe if you had done your research you would realize that that does not phase me.

Second the German aircraft industry is actually booming, especially when compared to the Australian.

Originally Posted by JeffK

(Whats a Flying Mango??)

I dont know, you tell me. You guys named an aircraft after a fruit.

Originally Posted by JeffK

Wirraway = Challenge in the indigenous lingo.
Boomerang = An Aboriginal weapon.
Woomera = Another aboriginal weapon, used as a sling to throw a spear further.
Wackett = Named after Sir Lawrence Wackett, one of the first Australian Aircraft designers.
Winjeel = Young Eagle, a training aircraft.
You missed the Ceres, an Agricultural Sprayer,
The PL12 Airtruk, a New Zealand designed aircraft, when Transavia decided to upgraded it it couldnt use the same name so dropped the "C" .
The PL12U was the Airtruk with the spray tanks removed and 5 seats fitted.

Still some pretty stupid names for aircraft if you ask me.

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Originally Posted by plan_D

Australia has a massive military history. And those in other nations respect the ANZAC contribution to any war. The ANZACs were, and are, well known to be brave and skillful in combat.

Australia would do itself a few big favours with a development of an aviation industry. It's not just beneficial for ones own military, but the developments can provide money from abroad in sales and technology. And create diplomatic ties. Australia is big enough, and has the money to create this industry. But it seems, along with Canada, they've not thought it through and simply buy American.

Agreed pD. Aside from the little spat up there, the Aussies have allways been a very formidable fighting force and should be recognized for there achievements.

[JeffK]

You cannot run a Military Aviation Industry based on building about 20 Aircraft a year. This would be excess to our needs, and at a cost which couldnt compete with the prices offered by Russia, the USA and Europe. There would be no overseas market for our extra aircraft.

Post WW2 we built the P51D (Including a version capable of 475mph) dh Vampires, Avro Lincolns, EE Canberra, Dassault Mirage IIIO and constructed (partially from OZ parts) the F/A18A.

But the 118 F/A18 has served 20 years, and until the F35 arrives has to continue. We purchased the F111 in the 70's, same story.

We dont see the US or UK or Europe interested in starting an industry, they have there own social & economic problems to be solved.

As for WW2, the Wirraway was our first Military aircraft built in OZ in 1938, over 700 built. By wars end we had designed and built the Boomerang & Woomera (2 only) plus built the Bristol Beaufort & Beaufighter(To a improved standard to the British Version) dh Mosquito and were just producing the P-51D/K.


Not bad to move from the Wirraway to Mustang in 6-7 years.

[davparlr]

Originally Posted by plan_D

Australia has a massive military history. And those in other nations respect the ANZAC contribution to any war. The ANZACs were, and are, well known to be brave and skillful in combat.

I certainly second this statement. They have been involved in some of the most intense combat in the most severe environment and have always fought well.

[pbfoot]

Originally Posted by plan_D

Australia has a massive military history. And those in other nations respect the ANZAC contribution to any war. The ANZACs were, and are, well known to be brave and skillful in combat.

Australia would do itself a few big favours with a development of an aviation industry. It's not just beneficial for ones own military, but the developments can provide money from abroad in sales and technology. And create diplomatic ties. Australia is big enough, and has the money to create this industry. But it seems, along with Canada, they've not thought it through and simply buy American.

The canadian aviation industry is probably larger than the German and very close if not larger then the Brits Bombardier is the worlds 3rd largest aircraft manufacturer ,Pratt Whitney Canada produces 34% of worlds small gas turbines and dominates the turbo prop market ,CAE manufactures 80% of the worlds simulators, 60% of new large aircraft landing gear ,14%of the worlds helicopters thats not to shoddy

[P38 Pilot]

Originally Posted by JeffK

You cannot run a Military Aviation Industry based on building about 20 Aircraft a year. This would be excess to our needs, and at a cost which couldnt compete with the prices offered by Russia, the USA and Europe. There would be no overseas market for our extra aircraft.

Post WW2 we built the P51D (Including a version capable of 475mph) dh Vampires, Avro Lincolns, EE Canberra, Dassault Mirage IIIO and constructed (partially from OZ parts) the F/A18A.

But the 118 F/A18 has served 20 years, and until the F35 arrives has to continue. We purchased the F111 in the 70's, same story.

We dont see the US or UK or Europe interested in starting an industry, they have there own social & economic problems to be solved.

As for WW2, the Wirraway was our first Military aircraft built in OZ in 1938, over 700 built. By wars end we had designed and built the Boomerang & Woomera (2 only) plus built the Bristol Beaufort & Beaufighter(To a improved standard to the British Version) dh Mosquito and were just producing the P-51D/K.


Not bad to move from the Wirraway to Mustang in 6-7 years.

Interesting. Lets all say that American aircraft are the best though!

[102first_hussars]

Well guess what, theyre not

[the lancaster kicks ass]

built the Bristol Beaufort & Beaufighter(To a improved standard to the British Version)

ah-hem

and Britain aint doing so bad you know, Martin Baker manufacture 80% of all the world's ejector seats, Augusta-Westland is the 2nd largest helicopter manufacturer in the world, BAE is one of the biggest aircraft producing groups, shorts is still running to this day (Britain's first aircraft producing company) and Rolls-Royce engines power a very favourable chunk of aircraft all over the world, the only comparable company is Pratt and Whitney, and it's Rolls Royce making the lift system for the F-35, we're also a large partner in many international companies, primarily Airbus............

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Originally Posted by P38 Pilot

Interesting. Lets all say that American aircraft are the best though!

Um no. While the US is leading the industry right now and has the best aircraft on the market right now, there are plenty of great aircraft that come from all over the world.

[pbfoot]

Bombardier owns Shorts

[P38 Pilot]

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

Um no. While the US is leading the industry right now and has the best aircraft on the market right now, there are plenty of great aircraft that come from all over the world.

It was worth a try...