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12-11-2005, 07:27 AM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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Polish pilots training with the 162nd Fighter Wing of the Arizona Air National Guard in Tucson, Arizona have advanced to the point of flying F-16s on their own. Lt. Col. Rościsław Stepaniuk recently became the first Polish pilot to complete the seven-month course and become qualified in the F-16. Six more Polish pilots have just begun the training in Tucson. Colonel Carl Thomae, Director of Operations at the 162nd, stated that the Polish pilots had made “impressive progress.” The pilots are confronted not only with the Polish/English language barrier, but an entirely new array of controls and systems in the cockpits of the ultra-modern F-16s. The pilots will be ready for action when the first of Poland’s 48 new F-16s arrive in Poland next November. 
Commander of Polish Air Force Meets with Polish Pilots Who Are Taking F-16 Training 
Polish Pilot Returns from Training Mission in Arizona National Guard F-16 | 
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12-11-2005, 08:16 AM
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#2 | | "Shooter"
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Country:  | Pretty cool. Having been in the USAF during the cold war, it is still amazing to me that a former Warsaw Pact country is buying American technology.
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12-11-2005, 09:13 AM
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#3 | | He who does not skim
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Country:  | Poland was the first former Warsaw Pact country to apply for NATO membership too. During a NATO deployment I did a few years ago, we had a Polish exchange officer onboard. Nice guy. | |
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12-11-2005, 09:22 AM
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Country: | And just can't imagine, that all MiGs and Sukhois will disappear from our skies  MiGs-21 are already gone
I'm bigger fan of Russian planes than American, but we're in a new pact, so new equipment is needed.
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12-11-2005, 02:49 PM
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#6 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by evangilder Pretty cool. Having been in the USAF during the cold war, it is still amazing to me that a former Warsaw Pact country is buying American technology. | What really was crazy was when the Wall fell and Germany reunified. All the Russian equipment that the East Germans had became West Germany's. It was really wiered to see Mig-29's and Hinds flying over Germany. It seems normal today, but was crazy back then.
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12-11-2005, 03:22 PM
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Country: | It was the same in Poland. F16 and other NATO planes over Poland 10 years ago looked unreal. | |
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12-11-2005, 03:34 PM
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#8 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I can believe it. Looked almost like an invasion I bet.
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12-11-2005, 09:52 PM
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#9 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Yeah, I remember watching the wall come down on TV. I honestly never thought I would see that in my lifetime. Funny that this was brought up. I heard the Scorpions Magic of the Moment tonight too.
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12-13-2005, 01:19 AM
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12-13-2005, 09:29 AM
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#11 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Cool shot!
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12-13-2005, 09:31 AM
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12-13-2005, 09:58 AM
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#13 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | shouldda bought the Eurofighter 
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12-13-2005, 01:58 PM
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Country: | Finally since WW.2, a large delegation of the Polish Air Force visited RAF Coltishall at 12 - 23 August 2004. As guest of the 41 Squadron (Jaguar Gr.4), 4 SU-22M-4 Fitter single seat and 1 SU-22UM twin seat fighters from the 7 Eskadra Lotnictwa Taktycznego (7 ELT) found their way to RAF Coltishall situated in the green fields of Norfolk. This situation was possible again after the Cold War faded away some years ago, Poland joining NATO afterwards and bringing their aircraft to NATO standard. Both countries are willing to strengthen relations again which were shamefully cut off after the ending of WW.2 when communism interfered. Its good to notice that this former WW.2 ally returns into the European community and gets rewarded by new attention for its role in WW.2 This issue will also be underlined during the the celebrations taking place around the 60 year remembrance of the Battle near Arnhem planned for 18 September where British and Polish fought side by side trying to conquer this important bridge in operation Market Garden.
Both SU-22 and Jaguar Gr.4 were born around the same episode, late 60's and early 70's, acting as single seat supersonic fighter attack aircraft. Being counterparts during the mentioned Cold War, both survived this cold episode of tension very well. Sadly the days of the Jaguar seem to be numbered right now after the release of new budget cut plans for the RAF. The Polish Air Force plans to maintain their Fitter fleet until 2010/12. Also both fighters are not very sophisticated but effective and reliable weapon platforms for low level tactical strike and recon misisons. Exports show this succes as well, the Fitter leading, being one of the most exported Sukhoi products ever.  | |
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12-13-2005, 02:20 PM
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Country: | Nice pic v2 It is good to see relations with the ex-Warsaw Pact countries improving since the fall of communism, it should be benifitial to everyone.
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