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10-22-2007, 03:36 AM
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Country:  | Well since the russians started flying their bombers again I think is fair for us europeans to greet them with new technology 
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10-25-2007, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Glider  I left myself way open for that one | Oui.
Looks like the Japanese are playing a poliitcal game. They announced that they will buy Typhoons if they can't get F-22s. Now that should be interesting. That would topple the US monopoly for the JSDF.
Also, remember the F-15 has the largest physical size radome able to accomodate the largest aperature AESA. With a modernized weapon system, F-15Cs and F-15Es are being equipped with Raytheon AESAs now that would provide a VERY formidable adversary for even the most modern of fighters. Don't understimate an aircraft based solely upon the antiquity of the airframe. That is not where the technological advantages have been occurring in the last 10-15 years. The airframe and propulsion wars of the 70s-80s are gone.
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10-26-2007, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt308 Oui.
Looks like the Japanese are playing a poliitcal game. They announced that they will buy Typhoons if they can't get F-22s. Now that should be interesting. That would topple the US monopoly for the JSDF.
Also, remember the F-15 has the largest physical size radome able to accomodate the largest aperature AESA. With a modernized weapon system, F-15Cs and F-15Es are being equipped with Raytheon AESAs now that would provide a VERY formidable adversary for even the most modern of fighters. Don't understimate an aircraft based solely upon the antiquity of the airframe. That is not where the technological advantages have been occurring in the last 10-15 years. The airframe and propulsion wars of the 70s-80s are gone. | Many don't understand that Matt
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10-28-2007, 12:55 PM
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10-28-2007, 01:06 PM
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Country:  | The F-15E is not getting an AESA system, it's only the C model to be equipped with the AN/APG-63. I have to put out that the Typhoon is to be equipped with AMSAR which is a AESA; and will be ready by 2010.
I know that F-16 and F-18 models are also getting AESA; while the F-22 has the most up to date AN/APG-77 (I think) with a 120 degree field of vision and no moving parts.
The F-35 is going to use a newer version but I can't remember it's designation and I can't be bothered to google it.
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10-28-2007, 06:10 PM
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Country: | DoD has issued a RFP for AESA in the F-15E.
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10-29-2007, 05:19 AM
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10-29-2007, 06:39 PM
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With multiple models (-63, -77, -79, -80, -81) to choose from it will depend on the mission, capability, integration and cost.
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10-29-2007, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt308 Oui.
Looks like the Japanese are playing a poliitcal game. They announced that they will buy Typhoons if they can't get F-22s. Now that should be interesting. That would topple the US monopoly for the JSDF.
. | We'll if things get hot with North Korea or China... There is a chance that our Japanese friends will get involved. I'd rather see them flying F-22s
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10-29-2007, 07:00 PM
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Country: | Me too. However, we could just negotiate F-35s. I would think that would be adequate.
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10-29-2007, 07:09 PM
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Country: | Adequate for taking on the Chinese J-10.. but the MiG35 and SU-35.... I think that will be a challenge.
Is Russia exporting latest generation stuff to China?
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10-29-2007, 07:12 PM
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Country: | I don't think so. Latest gen stuff that they sell to everybody else. But certainly not their latest. China is too much of a potential threat and with her growing economy it must be making Russia more than a little nervous.
There is a lot of oil untapped just north of China. 
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10-30-2007, 04:53 AM
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10-30-2007, 09:40 AM
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Country:  | The Typhoon would be albe to handle any Chinese or N. Korean threat anyhow.
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10-30-2007, 06:14 PM
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