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12-17-2006, 11:54 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia
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 | The top 10 combat rifles Hi everyone I was watching a show on the Discovery Channel recently and it was called the 'Top 10'. On this particular episode they were discussing the top 10 combat rifles of all time. They are as follows: 1. AK-47 2. M-16 3. Lee Enfield SMLE 4. M1 Garand 5. FN FAL 6. Mauser model 98K Carbine 7. Steyer AUG 8. 1903 Springfield 9. Sturmgewher 44 (MP43) 10. M14 So what are your thoughts and what would you change about this list?
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12-18-2006, 05:45 AM
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| I always concidered the FN FAL to be the best ,reliable ,powerful and accurate. NO.2 would be the styer aug ( made in Austria ) I belive the newer styer's have quality issiues ! No 3. AK 47. The best bolt action weapon I think has got to be the Lee enfield smle .A weapon not on the list which should be is the new HK 416. |
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12-18-2006, 11:47 AM
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| Der Crewchief   Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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| I dont think it is a bad list but I can probably think of better guns than the M-16.
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12-18-2006, 03:48 PM
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| AK-47 and FN FAL need to be one and two, in either order..........
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12-18-2006, 05:01 PM
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| Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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| AK-47 is the single best weapon of modern warfare. Atleast when it comes to small arms.
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12-18-2006, 05:02 PM
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| Top 10 combat rifles. Not necessarily what you would want TODAY, but what has been demonstrated as technologically superior, innovative, cheap to produce, best use materials, and/or precedent establishing. Hmmm. Here goes... 1. AK-47 2. Mauser 98 3. FN FAL 4. M1 Garand 5. SMLE 6. Springfield 1903 7. M16 8. MP43 9. SKS 10 Mosin Nagant Notice I didn't even put my favorite in there. 
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12-18-2006, 05:02 PM
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12-18-2006, 06:16 PM
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| Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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| That is a good list up there Matt and I think I would completely go with the list that you made. The AK-47 might not be the best small arms ever built especially with the type of weapons that are coming out today but it revolutionized modern warfare. It is rugged, easy to use and anyone can fire it. Hell look at how many standing army's use it today and how many militias use it. It is easily the most widely used weapon and the weapon of choice for most military powers.
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12-19-2006, 04:28 PM
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| if asked which single small arm has most influenced post-WWII warfare it can only be the AK-47 which is why it must be no.1.........
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12-19-2006, 05:50 PM
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| And they are FUN to shoot. Not as accurate as an M16 or other modern weapon, but then you rarely have to clean the bastards either.
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12-19-2006, 06:01 PM
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| look at the people that use the AK, what do they care or accuracy  and i'd imagine on single shot she's fine?
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12-19-2006, 06:14 PM
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| "World Traveller"   Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK
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 | The thread on the Battle of Monrovia shows that I would agree with the AK being top with then some of the other modern firearms - M-16 etc below it.
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12-19-2006, 06:23 PM
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| aka Dickcheese Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State
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| I think folks have a misconception of a modern day rifle that is not as "accurate". The M16 out of the box will shoot 2MOA or less all day long. An AK 4MOA. That's less than 4 inches at 100yds. Accurate enough.
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12-19-2006, 11:01 PM
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| Also the firepower a AK-47 is packing. 7.62mm against an M-16 or M-4 5.56mm. Now I have fired a 47 before but not an M-16 or M-4. Whoever has, what do you guys compare it to the AK-47?
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12-20-2006, 12:25 AM
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| aka Dickcheese Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State
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| Good for you P38. When did you fire an AK? 5.56x45 kicks less. Short quick slap recoil. 7.65x39 just kinda shoves slow and gentle. Neither have significant recoil though.
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