U.S. Air Force Announces F-22 Raptor Ready for Operations World-Wide

[Konigstiger205]

A great and mean looking aircraft...its one of my favorites aircraft next to the Me262.And I think the more the better...history has learned us to expect the unexpected.

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Originally Posted by Ramirezzz

Did Russia sell any fighters to Iran? or to Libya? Even so, both the Su-30MKX and upgraded MiG-29SMT ,which are currently the only fighters that Russia offers are certainly no match for a Raptor. So USAF doesn't need more than 200 fighters of this type even. And the development of the PAK-FA seems endless even a funding isn't a great problem in Russia anymore

The Russians (or Soviets back then if you wish) were selling weapons to Syria and Iran from the beginning. Not that I am judging them for it. That is what happened. The Soviets (Russians) sell weapons to there potential allies and the US does the same to theres.

Syria however currently has:

14 Mig-29SMT
42 Mig-29 with another (12 of them bought after 2003)

Syria recieves most of its equipment from Russia and also the technical support to go along with it.

Basically what I am trying to say is this:

There is no reason to believe the Russians will not sell them any advanced aircraft.

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Oops I just saw we are talking about Lybia and not Syria.

But still the point remains. Russia has allways supplied Lybia with equipment and aircraft. There is no reason to believe they will not in the future.

In fact according to GlobalSecurity.org - Reliable Security Information Lybia is looking into the prospects of buying the Mig-29SMT and the Su-30MK.

[Ramirezzz]

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

Oops I just saw we are talking about Lybia and not Syria.

But still the point remains. Russia has allways supplied Lybia with equipment and aircraft. There is no reason to believe they will not in the future.

In fact according to GlobalSecurity.org - Reliable Security Information Lybia is looking into the prospects of buying the Mig-29SMT and the Su-30MK.

BTW, should we actually continue to consider Lybia as a nation which is still hostile to the USA? I mean they're really get much more cooperative on various issues, AFAIK there're diplomatic relations restored between two countries. So I wouldn't much wonder if for example French sell them their stuff in the nearest future.

Russia has allways supplied Lybia with equipment and aircraft.

just as long there was no sanctions.

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Originally Posted by Ramirezzz

BTW, should we actually continue to consider Lybia as a nation which is still hostile to the USA? I mean they're really get much more cooperative on a various issues, AFAIK there're diplomatic relations restored between two countries. So I wouldn't much wonder if for example French sell them their stuff in the nearest future.

Even though there are diplomatic relations does not mean they are on real friendly terms. The Soviets and the United States allways had diplomatic relations and they did not agree with one another.

At the moment we do not agree with Venezuela or Cuba but we have diplomatic relations.

As for the French they sell things to everyone, especially the enemies of there so called allies. They are just out to make a buck.

Originally Posted by Ramirezzz

just as long there was no sanctions.

The Libyan Airforce was built with Soviet Existance and has been supplied and maintained by Russia ever since.

After the United States left Libya in 1970 the Soviets sent personel to Okba Ben Nafi Air Base to build and train the Libyan Airforce. Everything down to the organization was assisted by the Soviets.

The last major delivery was in 1989 and no more aircraft were supplied since due to sanctions which were lifted in 1999. However during that time piriod Russian assistance was still provided in the form of contract maintenance and training.

[Lucky13]

Hmpf.....doesn't even a radial or an inline engine...modern crap!