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Old 06-10-2008, 12:12 PM   #16
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Not calling the troops cowards but I disagree with the policy of letting other nations tote the burden and it has been widely remarked on here in the various media .

The way things are going lately Canada may be at the 100 mark soon too...
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Yes Sorry Kruska IMO it is
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RAR – Royal Australian Regiment? Because you show an England Flag

Well, were you with 1st Battalion around March in 1993 at the Baido sector ?

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Old 06-10-2008, 12:31 PM   #18
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RAR – Royal Australian Regiment? Because you show an England Flag

Well, were you with 1st Battalion in 1993 at the Baido sector ?

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Or is RAR "Royal Artillery Regiment"?
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Thats a poor effort at fishing Kruska
I have mentioned my past before but that was well before your time on here and as then I choose what I write and reveal and have no intentions of going over old ground for your benefit.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:38 PM   #20
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sorry have to check this Regiment in google first.

Quote: no intentions of going over old ground for your benefit ???

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I have mentioned my past before but that was well before your time on here and as then I choose what I write and reveal

Anyways, back to the Afganistan discussion....


Trackend what is the UK opinion of this mission? Is there support for it?


It looks like it will become an issue in our next election too, the left wants to have only a "non-combat" role for our troops.

{handing out flowers to the Taliban?}
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Thanks Freebird, you're not in the diplomatic corp are you?

Most people that I speak to over here feel the war / hostilities cant be won, Probably as the history of the Khyber Pass ect was a thorn in the British side that was never drawn despite using the latest equipment and having a relitively large force against a few tribesmen it remained so for years.
If a by constantly keeping the Taliban under pressure it bings them to a negociated settlement and more importantly prevents the area being an easy location for terrorist units, the British public IMO will just about go with the flow. But a drawn out campaign that yeilds little movement on the diplomatic or campaign front will wear thin very quickly with the public especialy if the body count gets too high too quickly. A few guys here and a few guys there never really hits the headlines so it is only the comrades & families that feel the hurt.
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Thanks Freebird, you're not in the diplomatic corp are you?
Perhaps...

I try to steer the conversation in a positive direction if it gets testy...

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Most people that I speak to over here feel the war / hostilities cant be won. But a drawn out campaign that yeilds little movement on the diplomatic or campaign front will wear thin very quickly with the public especialy if the body count gets too high too quickly. A few guys here and a few guys there never really hits the headlines so it is only the comrades & families that feel the hurt.
Similar to the public opinion over here I would think.
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I would chime in on this, but Kruska has pretty much covered it.

Lets hope this can stay civil, especially because of what this thread is about.

UK military deaths.

I would like to say however:

To all the men and women who have given their lives in support of the War on Terror!

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I would chime in on this, but Kruska has pretty much covered it.

Lets hope this can stay civil, especially because of what this thread is about.

UK military deaths.

I would like to say however:

To all the men and women who have given their lives in support of the War on Terror!


To all the men and women who have given their lives in support of the War on Terror!

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I apologize from diverting on this thread especially since this has been discussed on other threads,
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/pol...gan-10899.html (Dutch soldiers will stay in Uruzgan)
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Well, I might as well get my head shot off. i am against the war, in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Why, because I dont think it is a "war on terror" at all. i think it is a "war to create terror" actually. I dont think the action is going to deter a single terrorist, far from it, I think it is giving the Jihadists reason to hate us. if we had just given them the 700 umper gazillion dollars that it has cost so far, we probable would have been able to buy a small country for the palestinians to live in, and would be better off by now

Before you lot kill me, I take nothing away from the servicemen over there. They have a B*gger of a job. But for Afghanistan i think we are mostly over there to guard a pipeline.

I dont know what Iraq was for.. I know this. NONE of the reasons given are the reasons we are over there.
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Oh boy I think you are dead meat but the Australian flag might save you.

I do certainly share your view on Iraq, but on Afghanistan I see it differently.
It is a fact that this place became a homestate for islamic nuts and terrorists after it was abondened by the West - having done their job against the Russians.

If 9/11 or not, sooner or later the West would have needed to do something about this country such as Sudan which is still largly ignored.

IMO the approach and action done after the US counter-attack on Afghanistan is the questionable one, since I do agree that a country such as Afghanistan will never remain peacefull or westernminded as soon as ISAF retreats. Presently IMO it is just a mirror of Vietnam. As cruel or disrespectfull it might sound but I think the West should just keep supplying weapons (make some money out of this) to the 2-3 big parties and make sure none of them gets a majority.

As long as they can cut each others throats they will feel happy following their present tribal heritage and could pose no threat to anyone outside their country.

Presently we are just feeding a single power group that is corrupt and unstable, disliked and not respected as an authority (without ISAFbehind them). If the factor Pakistan turns against the West - which is possible at any time, it will be Pakistan and Iran that decides the powergame in Afghanistan and ISAF will be helpless, Europe and the US will be just scratching their heads and abandon this place once more.

Since the West is rather willing to pay a billion and sacrifice soldiers for nothing, the chance to pay 2 billion (or whatever) to really change this country is neglegted.

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But for Afghanistan i think we are mostly over there to guard a pipeline.
So with Afghanistan in regards to 9-11, were we supposed to just sit there and go

"Oh well, they killed 3000+ people and attacked us on our soil, who cares..."

Did you really expect us, to not do anything.

I personally agree with both conflicts. I can however understand why you do not agree with Iraq. Afghanistan though? I really do not understand that.

As for the pipeline reference. When we attacked Afghanistan, there was no pipeline. The agreement to build the Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline was not sind till about 1 year later.

I am sorry I just do not understand your view on Afghanistan...
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And there is STILL no pipeline....
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