What could combat the F22?

[Kruska]

Originally Posted by starling

i am a novice here,but tornado f.3 with its foxhound look down radar,with amraam and firestreak missiles would have a chance.starling.

Hello Starling,

You would be very wrong. In today’s air combat scenarios – the deciding factors in regards to interception and elimination of an aircraft - happens at BVR (Beyond Visual Range), meaning the whole package is done decided by radar and electronics. It all comes down to the simple fact of “First look – first shoot”.
Now based on the present technical knowhow status, nothing would come close into combating an F-22 if one acquits to the actual practical status of the F-22, which so far is only forwarded by the producer and pilots of the F-22.
In regards to dogfights which can’t be out ruled now or in the future the practical flight demonstrations by the F-22 would leave a Tornado F3 without the slightest chance.

Regards
Kruska

[seesul]

Originally Posted by Kruska

Hello Starling,

You would be very wrong. In today’s air combat scenarios – the deciding factors in regards to interception and elimination of an aircraft - happens at BVR (Beyond Visual Range), meaning the whole package is done decided by radar and electronics. It all comes down to the simple fact of “First look – first shoot”.
Now based on the present technical knowhow status, nothing would come close into combating an F-22 if one acquits to the actual practical status of the F-22, which so far is only forwarded by the producer and pilots of the F-22.
In regards to dogfights which can’t be out ruled now or in the future the practical flight demonstrations by the F-22 would leave a Tornado F3 without the slightest chance.

Regards
Kruska

I´m not an expert but am curious...What´s your opinion of the comparison F-22 with Mig-35?

[seesul]

Originally Posted by Matt308

Man I wish I hadn't effed up this thread with that big Barracuda pic.

You can remove the picture, downsize it under 100 kB and put it back...

[Kruska]

Originally Posted by seesul

I´m not an expert but am curious...What´s your opinion of the comparison F-22 with Mig-35?

Dobriden seesul,

Presently its “enhanced” technology is merely provided by 2-3 existing frontline aircrafts. So besides the Indians having thoroughly evaluated this aircraft – little to nothing is actually known to the outside.

The Zhuk-AE, the OLS or its RD-33MK engines are surly indication towards a highly performing aircraft but leave little actual evidence in regards to practical performance. Within the next 2 years an improved version with vector thrust nozzles is going to be presented.

The statement of an AESA Radar reaching to a 130 km does not indicate much in regards to its beam detection strength and the probability of its intercept, or the interface to its missile links and the performance of Russian AAM’s as such. The RaSigma installation in Germany has tested the MiG 29 thoroughly and also found its weakness in regards to antenna positioning and restricted counter ECM features. The quality of the surface structure is the actual Achilles heel of this aircraft and any other Russian aircraft.

So to put it together IMO, the MiG 35 is for sure a very capable attack aircraft but its lock on capability or defensive survival chances against a Eurofighter or F-22 are doubtful.

Regards
Kruska

[seesul]

Originally Posted by Kruska

Dobriden seesul,

Presently its “enhanced” technology is merely provided by 2-3 existing frontline aircrafts. So besides the Indians having thoroughly evaluated this aircraft – little to nothing is actually known to the outside.

The Zhuk-AE, the OLS or its RD-33MK engines are surly indication towards a highly performing aircraft but leave little actual evidence in regards to practical performance. Within the next 2 years an improved version with vector thrust nozzles is going to be presented.

The statement of an AESA Radar reaching to a 130 km does not indicate much in regards to its beam detection strength and the probability of its intercept, or the interface to its missile links and the performance of Russian AAM’s as such. The RaSigma installation in Germany has tested the MiG 29 thoroughly and also found its weakness in regards to antenna positioning and restricted counter ECM features. The quality of the surface structure is the actual Achilles heel of this aircraft and any other Russian aircraft.

So to put it together IMO, the MiG 35 is for sure a very capable attack aircraft but its lock on capability or defensive survival chances against a Eurofighter or F-22 are doubtful.

Regards
Kruska

Vielen Dank für den Vergleich!

[starling]

ladies and gents,i would like to apologise to you all,if i have offended anyone on this thread,with my remarks,and indeed any other threads.it seems my harpoon notebook is quite clearly wrong.yours,lee. .

[seesul]

Originally Posted by starling

ladies and gents,i would like to apologise to you all,if i have offended anyone on this thread,with my remarks,and indeed any other threads.it seems my harpoon notebook is quite clearly wrong.yours,lee. .

...what for ...what happened?

[seesul]

Few pics from an old thread: http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...2-a-12776.html (Pics of F/A-22)

[Matt308]

Originally Posted by starling

ladies and gents,i would like to apologise to you all,if i have offended anyone on this thread,with my remarks,and indeed any other threads.it seems my harpoon notebook is quite clearly wrong.yours,lee. .

No worries starling. It's the "internets" and there are infinite places to play. I think this pic says it all anyways.