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Old 10-30-2009, 10:28 PM   #46
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It's been a long time since I've been in school, but I recall hearing that Dutch was very close to Old English.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:02 PM   #47
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Yep, that´s funny but true. The main verb in the sentence in past tense goes to the end of sentence. So if the sentence icludes more than 10 words, it´s not easy to translate it simultaneously...
Very true, you can not translate German word for word.
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It's been a long time since I've been in school, but I recall hearing that Dutch was very close to Old English.
I'm having flashbacks of the Canterbury Tales,

Whan that Aprille with his shoures soote...
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Old 11-01-2009, 05:38 AM   #49
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It's been a long time since I've been in school, but I recall hearing that Dutch was very close to Old English.
So in fact everybody speaks Dutch

Actually the oldest form of Dutch ever found seems to be very similar to the oldest form of English. But modern Dutch is nowhere near Old English.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:18 AM   #50
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I'm having flashbacks of the Canterbury Tales,

Whan that Aprille with his shoures soote...
Yeah I remember having to do Chaucer's tales as well as read Beowulf in the original Old English. I can still recite the prologue here. Doesn't look like English does it?



Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,
5
monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas. Syððan ærest wearð
feasceaft funden, he þæs frofre gebad,
weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah,
oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendra
10
ofer hronrade hyran scolde,
gomban gyldan. þæt wæs god cyning!
Ðæm eafera wæs æfter cenned,
geong in geardum, þone god sende
folce to frofre; fyrenðearfe ongeat
15
þe hie ær drugon aldorlease
lange hwile. Him þæs liffrea,
wuldres wealdend, woroldare forgeaf;
Beowulf wæs breme (blæd wide sprang),
Scyldes eafera Scedelandum in.
20
Swa sceal geong guma gode gewyrcean,
fromum feohgiftum on fæder bearme,
þæt hine on ylde eft gewunigen
wilgesiþas, þonne wig cume,
leode gelæsten; lofdædum sceal
25
in mægþa gehwære man geþeon.
Him ða Scyld gewat to gescæphwile
felahror feran on frean wære.
Hi hyne þa ætbæron to brimes faroðe,
swæse gesiþas, swa he selfa bæd,
30
þenden wordum weold wine Scyldinga;
leof landfruma lange ahte.
þær æt hyðe stod hringedstefna,
isig ond utfus, æþelinges fær.
Aledon þa leofne þeoden,
35
beaga bryttan, on bearm scipes,
mærne be mæste. þær wæs madma fela
of feorwegum, frætwa, gelæded;
ne hyrde ic cymlicor ceol gegyrwan
hildewæpnum ond heaðowædum,
40
billum ond byrnum; him on bearme læg
madma mænigo, þa him mid scoldon
on flodes æht feor gewitan.
Nalæs hi hine læssan lacum teodan,
þeodgestreonum, þon þa dydon
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þe hine æt frumsceafte forð onsendon
ænne ofer yðe umborwesende.
þa gyt hie him asetton segen geldenne
heah ofer heafod, leton holm beran,
geafon on garsecg; him wæs geomor sefa,
50
murnende mod. Men ne cunnon
secgan to soðe, selerædende,
hæleð under heofenum, hwa þæm hlæste onfeng.

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So in fact everybody speaks Dutch

Actually the oldest form of Dutch ever found seems to be very similar to the oldest form of English. But modern Dutch is nowhere near Old English.
Same with German. Old German and Old English are very very similar.
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Same with German. Old German and Old English are very very similar.
That;'s because the German learned it from the Dutch
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That;'s because the German learned it from the Dutch
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Well considering it is a West Language language.

Dutch language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We could go on and on about this...
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Well considering it is a West Language language.

Dutch language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We could go on and on about this...
Oh that's not fair, you're using facts.....
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Yeah I remember having to do Chaucer's tales as well as read Beowulf in the original Old English. I can still recite the prologue here. Doesn't look like English does it?



Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,
5
monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas. Syððan ærest wearð
feasceaft funden, he þæs frofre gebad,
weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah,
oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendra
10
ofer hronrade hyran scolde,
gomban gyldan. þæt wæs god cyning!
Ðæm eafera wæs æfter cenned,
geong in geardum, þone god sende
folce to frofre; fyrenðearfe ongeat
15
þe hie ær drugon aldorlease
lange hwile. Him þæs liffrea,
wuldres wealdend, woroldare forgeaf;
Beowulf wæs breme (blæd wide sprang),
Scyldes eafera Scedelandum in.
20
Swa sceal geong guma gode gewyrcean,
fromum feohgiftum on fæder bearme,
þæt hine on ylde eft gewunigen
wilgesiþas, þonne wig cume,
leode gelæsten; lofdædum sceal
25
in mægþa gehwære man geþeon.
Him ða Scyld gewat to gescæphwile
felahror feran on frean wære.
Hi hyne þa ætbæron to brimes faroðe,
swæse gesiþas, swa he selfa bæd,
30
þenden wordum weold wine Scyldinga;
leof landfruma lange ahte.
þær æt hyðe stod hringedstefna,
isig ond utfus, æþelinges fær.
Aledon þa leofne þeoden,
35
beaga bryttan, on bearm scipes,
mærne be mæste. þær wæs madma fela
of feorwegum, frætwa, gelæded;
ne hyrde ic cymlicor ceol gegyrwan
hildewæpnum ond heaðowædum,
40
billum ond byrnum; him on bearme læg
madma mænigo, þa him mid scoldon
on flodes æht feor gewitan.
Nalæs hi hine læssan lacum teodan,
þeodgestreonum, þon þa dydon
45
þe hine æt frumsceafte forð onsendon
ænne ofer yðe umborwesende.
þa gyt hie him asetton segen geldenne
heah ofer heafod, leton holm beran,
geafon on garsecg; him wæs geomor sefa,
50
murnende mod. Men ne cunnon
secgan to soðe, selerædende,
hæleð under heofenum, hwa þæm hlæste onfeng.



Same with German. Old German and Old English are very very similar.
Ok, I'm impressed as hell. It was a struggle just to remember my one line!
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