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02-05-2008, 01:23 PM
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Are there any numbers with regard to how both bands continue selling records?
Itīd be interesting to know which of those 2 seem to attract more people of the "new generations"; with this i mean people -like me- who were born quite a few years after Zeppelinīs dissapearance.
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02-05-2008, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Udet  More on the Zeppelin vs Floyd issue:
Are there any numbers with regard to how both bands continue selling records?
Itīd be interesting to know which of those 2 seem to attract more people of the "new generations"; with this i mean people -like me- who were born quite a few years after Zeppelinīs dissapearance. | I have no hard facts or figures but, judging from what I've read & heard, I would have to say that Zeppelin's music has stood up better to the test of time; I can't tell you how many high-school age kids I've seen in my town running around with Led Zeppelin t-shirts on. Now, that's not to say that they necessarily listen to Zeppelin, but it does say something about the longevity and timelessness of the band.
I'll see if I can't dig up some statistics on those album sales for you . . . .
Okay, here's what I got from the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame website:
"Meanwhile, the Led Zeppelin legend endures and grows long after their demise, much like that of the Doors and Elvis Presley. The lingering appeal of Led Zeppelin is perhaps best summed up by guitarist Page: Passion is the word....It was a very passionate band, and thats really what comes through. At the dawn of the new millennium, Led Zeppelin placed second only to the Beatles in terms of record sales, having sold 84 million units. Led Zeppelin IV is the fourth best-selling album in history, having sold more than 22 million copies, and four other albums by the band Physical Graffiti, Led Zeppelin II, Houses of the Holy and Led Zeppelin - also rank among the all-time top 100 best-sellers. Fittingly, Led Zeppelin is tied with the Beatles (five apiece) for the most albums on that esteemed list a mark of both bands impact. In their ceaseless determination to move music forward, Led Zeppelin carved out an indelible place in rock history."
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03-25-2008, 03:01 PM
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Country:  | To me the best is The Rolling Stones, and Satisfaction is the best piece. But I also like much Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Who, Jimi Hendrix and The Experience and Cream.
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03-25-2008, 03:04 PM
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Country:  | The Rolling Stones are a great band but Satisfaction is far from there best song.
But hey each person has there own musical taste.
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03-25-2008, 03:08 PM
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Country: | I also think that the re-entry into the mainstream of a FEW bands has been the exposure of the youth through movies.
I really can't pick a fav. I'd have to say Floyd, Stones, Beatles..I don't see the Beatles in the same arena, really.
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03-26-2008, 12:19 PM
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It's funny though, listen to radio at work and they talk about biggest selling this and that, most awaited blah blah...etc. of today... Make the bands sounds like that they're greatest thing since the wheel and sliced bread...give me a f*cking break!  I bet that you, when listen to these programs, can come up with plenty of bands that has sold more, sound better and is still talked about after 20+ years...
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Originally Posted by Heinz Manowar needs to be added! | You are joking right?
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05-08-2008, 08:48 PM
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They are more cheesy than all metal combined, I will admit
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05-08-2008, 09:24 PM
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05-09-2008, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Why?
Did you only listen to the Black Metal and Death Metal.
You should have checked out the other stuff. There is some really good metal out there ranging from Metallica to Lacuna Coil. | Does anyone else here listen to "Eddie Trunk"? Eddie Trunk
It's on mondays on satellite radio. I catch his show every week, he does mostly "classic" Metal {for want of a better name}, Judas Priest, Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Mettalica, AC/DC etc. and lots of lesser known bands. He has lots of Metal news has some great interviews. Last week it was Halford, Tipton & Downing, and he also played a couple of tracks from the new Priest album "Nostradamus".
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Originally Posted by Udet A question for those who were in their late teens or twenties in the early 70s, or who perhaps had the chance to attend rock concerts during that period of time...
That was the time when 2 bands that are considered as some of the greatest rock acts ever were alive: Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin.
My question: which of those 2 you think was the most powerful during such time? If powerful seems a confusing term, then think which one was more important or consider any of the following elements:
- Fanbase
- Albums sold
- Tours
As a necessary remark iīd say this is not to ask you which one was your favorite. I need your objectiveness.
The point is i just came across another heated "rock debate" where a bunch of guys were discussing which of the 2 had the greatest impact in rock music.
One noted that -musical skills and quality put aside- Pink Floyd attained a somewhat superior notoriety because Led Zeppelin was disbanded in 1979/1980 (forgot the year) when their drummer died, whereas Pink Floyd did continue with its musical career. Pink Floyd continued making albums and touring for an extra 20 years or so after Led Zeppelinīs dissapearance.
When Pink FLoyd and Led Zeppelin were in the boxing ring, which one ruled?
What are your thoughts? | Both bands are considered pioneers in their "genre" Udet, most consider Led Zeppelin to be "Hard Rock" which developed into "Heavy Metal", in the late 60's/early 70's along with Sabbath, Priest, AC/DC & others.
Pink Floyd on the other hand are not "Heavy Metal", but are early pioneers of "Prog" {progressive rock}, along with Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, & early Genesis. Newer Prog bands like Porcupine Tree or Dream Theater are often compared with Pink Floyd.
So it would really depend on which genre you prefer as to which band you like better.
If you want to know more about Prog music check out progarchives.com Progressive Rock Music Ultimate Discography ... with Free MP3, Videos and Reviews
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Originally Posted by lesofprimus Its a toss up between Metallica, Soudgarden and Van Halen, so I went with what made me what I am today, Metallica.... Gods for sure, with a resume that transcends most others... | Sorry guys Fleetwood Mac is my #1 choice Can't ind Blind Faith or Cream either...
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Forgive me if I've posted any of this before.
Can't remember and don't feel like sifting through 11 pages of dialogue to find out... Quote:
Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet The Rolling Stones are a great band but Satisfaction is far from there best song.
But hey each person has there own musical taste. | While not my favourite band in the "whole-wide-world", I do have to say that many have agreed with me in the past when I said that " Made in the Shade" was their best album.
A compilation of some of the coolest stuff had put out, up to that time.
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Originally Posted by SoD Stitch Okay, here's what I got from the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame website:
"Meanwhile, the Led Zeppelin legend endures and grows long after their demise, much like that of the Doors and Elvis Presley. | Thankyou thankyouverymuch. 
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Originally Posted by SoD Stitch Okay, here's what I got from the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame website...At the dawn of the new millennium, Led Zeppelin placed second only to the Beatles in terms of record sales... | (seriously) On top of that, Led Zeppelin was listed in the Guiness Book of World Records for a number of years as having the highest grossing single concert by any Rock act.
I think it was in Florida (Tampa?) in 1973 and ticket sales totaled something like $509,000. I once did the math and found out an average ticket for that concert sold for $5.50.
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 Most of the band from the 60's I'd say....great decade with great cars, music etc...goes for the 50's as well...
It's funny though, listen to radio at work and they talk about biggest selling this and that, most awaited blah blah...etc. of today... Make the bands sounds like that they're greatest thing since the wheel and sliced bread...give me a f*cking break! I bet that you, when listen to these programs, can come up with plenty of bands that has sold more, sound better and is still talked about after 20+ years... | In my mind, Rock hasn't really progressed, musically, since the mid-late 1970's.
The 80's were all about digitalization and "regurgitating" the sound that was popular in the late 50's - mid 60's.
Once in a while, I'll actually watch some videos on MTV and VH1 or I'll catch some new band on Leno or something, and all I hear is the stuff I was doing 20+ years ago.
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Originally Posted by freebird Does anyone else here listen to "Eddie Trunk"?...he does mostly "classic" Metal {for want of a better name}, Judas Priest, Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Mettalica, AC/DC etc. | Speaking of AC-DC, I remember the day "Highway to Hell" was released in the US.
I was 15 and my mom just happened to be going into the neighboring town that contained "the record store".
When I got in line, it was maybe 1/4 way down the block. I remember going in and a good 75% of the record bins were stuffed with the album. What copies couldn't fit, were left in their shipping boxes, which were opened and strewn all over the floor.
By the time I got in, bought an album and walked out, the line went all the way down the block, around the corner and down the next block.
I had that album until about 10 years ago, when I gave away my record collection.
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