Harry "Gunner" Kenton, USMC - American hero - Page 3 - Aircraft of World War II

Gnomey · 01-11-2006, 03:02 AM

You can select as far as I know however you have to pass the selection process and get through training before you are in the unit.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 01-11-2006, 03:22 AM

Airborne is not a MOS (Military Ocupational Speciality) in the Army. Anyone can be Airborne. I am a Blackhawk Crewchief and I can be Airborne, all I have to do is apply to the Airborne School and if I am accepted I go, and then I will be primarily assigned to aviation units that are in Airborne Units such as the 82nd Airborne Aviation.

If you wish to be an Airborne Infantry soldier then you need to go Infantry and tell your recruiter you want the Airborne option.

evangilder · 01-12-2006, 08:54 AM

Make sure that any promises your recruiter makes are in writing too.

Good luck James. You will be in our thoughts and prayers.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 01-12-2006, 09:29 AM

Yeap they love to finangle and mislead you, just to get you to sign the dotted line!

P38 Pilot · 01-14-2006, 07:44 AM

Thanks guys. SO I could go into the 101st Airborne if I just ask? Does the 101st still have PIR? (Parachute Infantry Regiment)

I plan on going to college but want to graduate through ROTC courses. Oh and can officers go to training to become a paratrooper?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 01-14-2006, 12:21 PM

No P38 you do not ask for a unit and they do not just give you what you want. You sign up for a job and they send you where the Army wants and needs you. There are plenty of Airborne units out there, and just because you are airborne you dont just get sent to Airborne units. I have people in my unit that are airborne and we are not an airborne unit.

101st is no longer an Airborne Unit. They still where Airborne over the Screaming Eagle out of tradition and yes many people that are in the 101st are Airborne Qualified, but it is not an Airborne Unit anymore. They do not jump out of planes. They are Air Assault and fly into battle in Blackhawks. Have been that way since Vietnam I believe or shortly there after.

P38 the Army is not a job where you just walk in to a Recruiter and say I want to be this and I want to go here. The Army does with you what they want. Yes you have somewhat of a say so, but it is not like the Hollywood Army that believe it is and talk about all the time on here.

Yes officers can go to Airborne School. Anyone can go to any School, it is just if the Army approves your request.

evangilder · 01-14-2006, 11:40 PM

If you want Airborne, the unit should be unimportant. Have you ever heard of the US 17th Airborne, P38? Probably not, most haven't. But they were involved in the largest and most successful airborne invasion in history. Look up Operation Varsity. If you are looking to serve, then serve. If you only want to wear a unit patch, buy the T-shirt.

plan_D · 01-15-2006, 12:56 AM

I forgot about this thread. But I would like to point out ...I WAS FREAKIN' JOKING!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 01-15-2006, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evangilder

If you want Airborne, the unit should be unimportant. Have you ever heard of the US 17th Airborne, P38? Probably not, most haven't. But they were involved in the largest and most successful airborne invasion in history. Look up Operation Varsity. If you are looking to serve, then serve. If you only want to wear a unit patch, buy the T-shirt.

Yeap and besides you just can not sign up for a unit. You can tell your recruiter I want to be Infantry and I wan Air Assault school and most likely you will go to 101st Airborne. If you go to Airborne School you could end up in the 82nd, you could end up in 18th ABN Corps, you could end up in 52nd Signal, you could end up in SOCEUR, the places are endless.

Also just because you go Airborne does not mean that youw ill end up in an Airborne unit. You could end up in 25 Infantry Division or 1st Infantry Division. Like I said I have buddies in my unit who are Airborne. We are not an Airborne Division and we are Aviation!

P38 it is not like Hollywood where you go and join the glorious unit because you want to. The army send you where they want to!

P38 Pilot · 01-15-2006, 06:13 PM

Thanks for telling me this guys. The more I know, it will help me. I don't mind being Air Assault. I had a 2nd Cousin to be with the 101st at Hamburger Hill in Vietnam. I wouldn't even mind if they put me with the 25th because they are stationed at Fort Benning and thats only a 45 minute drive from where I live.

I have read something about the 17th Airborne as well. It was in Fort Benning's Infantry museum honororing them for their bravery.

I have always wanted to be Airborne or Air Assault. Either one is just ok. I wouldn't mind being in the Infantry even.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 01-15-2006, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P38 Pilot

Thanks for telling me this guys. The more I know, it will help me.

Thats why I tell you these things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by P38 Pilot

I wouldn't even mind if they put me with the 25th because they are stationed at Fort Benning and thats only a 45 minute drive from where I live.

25th Infantry Division is in Hawaii and Alaska. I have several friends in the 25th ID and they were deployed to Iraq with us.

I have read something about the 17th Airborne as well. It was in Fort Benning's Infantry museum honororing them for their bravery.

Quote:

Originally Posted by P38 Pilot

I wouldn't mind being in the Infantry even.

It is not Hollywood!

syscom3 · 01-15-2006, 07:27 PM

17th Airborne or is it the 173rd Airborne?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 01-15-2006, 07:35 PM

173rd in now stationed out of Italy but they are in Afganistan right now.

evangilder · 01-15-2006, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syscom3

17th Airborne or is it the 173rd Airborne?

For Operation Varsity, it was the 17th AB "Thunder From Heaven". I should also add that the British 6th AB, "The Red Devils" were also part of that invasion. It was Montgomery's show.

Nonskimmer · 01-15-2006, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evangilder

I should also add that the British 6th AB, "The Red Devils" were also part of that invasion.

Which included the 1st Canadian Parachute Battalion.

01-11-2006, 03:02 AM	#31
Gnomey "World Traveller" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 16,510	You can select as far as I know however you have to pass the selection process and get through training before you are in the unit. __________________ "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr

01-11-2006, 03:22 AM	#32
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 34,065	Airborne is not a MOS (Military Ocupational Speciality) in the Army. Anyone can be Airborne. I am a Blackhawk Crewchief and I can be Airborne, all I have to do is apply to the Airborne School and if I am accepted I go, and then I will be primarily assigned to aviation units that are in Airborne Units such as the 82nd Airborne Aviation. If you wish to be an Airborne Infantry soldier then you need to go Infantry and tell your recruiter you want the Airborne option. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

01-12-2006, 08:54 AM	#33
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 15,420	Make sure that any promises your recruiter makes are in writing too. Good luck James. You will be in our thoughts and prayers. __________________ For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

01-12-2006, 09:29 AM	#34
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 34,065	Yeap they love to finangle and mislead you, just to get you to sign the dotted line! __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

01-14-2006, 07:44 AM	#35
P38 Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auburn,Alabama; USA Posts: 1,822	Thanks guys. SO I could go into the 101st Airborne if I just ask? Does the 101st still have PIR? (Parachute Infantry Regiment) I plan on going to college but want to graduate through ROTC courses. Oh and can officers go to training to become a paratrooper? __________________ Its better to have an Army of deer being led by a lion, rather an Army of Lions being led by a deer...

01-14-2006, 12:21 PM	#36
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 34,065	No P38 you do not ask for a unit and they do not just give you what you want. You sign up for a job and they send you where the Army wants and needs you. There are plenty of Airborne units out there, and just because you are airborne you dont just get sent to Airborne units. I have people in my unit that are airborne and we are not an airborne unit. 101st is no longer an Airborne Unit. They still where Airborne over the Screaming Eagle out of tradition and yes many people that are in the 101st are Airborne Qualified, but it is not an Airborne Unit anymore. They do not jump out of planes. They are Air Assault and fly into battle in Blackhawks. Have been that way since Vietnam I believe or shortly there after. P38 the Army is not a job where you just walk in to a Recruiter and say I want to be this and I want to go here. The Army does with you what they want. Yes you have somewhat of a say so, but it is not like the Hollywood Army that believe it is and talk about all the time on here. Yes officers can go to Airborne School. Anyone can go to any School, it is just if the Army approves your request. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

01-14-2006, 11:40 PM	#37
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 15,420	If you want Airborne, the unit should be unimportant. Have you ever heard of the US 17th Airborne, P38? Probably not, most haven't. But they were involved in the largest and most successful airborne invasion in history. Look up Operation Varsity. If you are looking to serve, then serve. If you only want to wear a unit patch, buy the T-shirt. __________________ For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

01-15-2006, 12:56 AM	#38
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	I forgot about this thread. But I would like to point out ...I WAS FREAKIN' JOKING! __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

01-15-2006, 06:13 PM	#40
P38 Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auburn,Alabama; USA Posts: 1,822	Thanks for telling me this guys. The more I know, it will help me. I don't mind being Air Assault. I had a 2nd Cousin to be with the 101st at Hamburger Hill in Vietnam. I wouldn't even mind if they put me with the 25th because they are stationed at Fort Benning and thats only a 45 minute drive from where I live. I have read something about the 17th Airborne as well. It was in Fort Benning's Infantry museum honororing them for their bravery. I have always wanted to be Airborne or Air Assault. Either one is just ok. I wouldn't mind being in the Infantry even. __________________ Its better to have an Army of deer being led by a lion, rather an Army of Lions being led by a deer...

01-15-2006, 07:27 PM	#42
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,811	17th Airborne or is it the 173rd Airborne? __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

01-15-2006, 07:35 PM	#43
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 34,065	173rd in now stationed out of Italy but they are in Afganistan right now. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode