 | How Many Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines.......| The NAAFI & PX Discuss How Many Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines....... in the Military Matters forums; 15 months in Italian Army, 6 of training and 9 as junior lieutenant (??? the ones with one star)
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01-28-2008, 05:42 PM
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| 15 months in Italian Army, 6 of training and 9 as junior lieutenant (??? the ones with one star)
Brigata Alpina Tridentina, GrAMon Vicenza (Alpin brigade, mountain artillery
group 'Vicenza'), the ones with the eagle feather on the hat. Gruppo Art. Montagna VICENZA - Home
Since officiers in Italy are never 'dismissed' but only have an 'unlimited absence permit' I theoretically should have earned some promotion, now after 25 years I might be a captain without knowing it... funny world
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01-29-2008, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by joy17782  yeah but is it still enough, remember guys we had alot of that coming out for uniforms, boots and the little things the army didnt give you , and so forth ..... | In the 70's (in the US Navy) we were given $7.00 a month for uniform
allowance & upkeep. It was figured into your pay, so I guess all branches
of the service got this whopping seven dollars.
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Country: | jump pay 150 smacks , thats good and we got a clothing allowance one a year i think it was around 200, when i was a e-1 i think it was 648 a month, | |
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Country:  | RAF 1964 to 1970. Aircraft Mechanic Airframes
RAF Kinloss, MOTU (MkT4 Shackleton) and 206 Sqn (Mk3 Shackleton)
RAF Khormaksar, Aden 37 Sqn (Mk2 Shackleton) Hunter Wing 208/43 Sqn (FGA9 & T7 Hunters)
RAF Sharjah (detachment) (Mk 2 Shackleton)
RAF Muharraq, Bahrein 105 Sqn (AW Argosy)
RAF Ballykelly H&R Flight (Mk2 & Mk3 Shackleton)
RAF Majunga (Mahajanga), Madagascar (detachment) 204 Sqn (Mk 2 Shackleton)
Now in Australia working on RAAF C130 Hercules and occasionally looking after RAAF F/A18A Hornets and Hawks
.... still doing the same sort work I was doing back in 64 
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01-30-2008, 09:27 PM
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01-30-2008, 10:26 PM
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Country: | Nice pic's, wingnuts..... what is the four engine aircraft ???
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01-31-2008, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ccheese Nice pic's, wingnuts..... what is the four engine aircraft ???
Charles |
Hi Charles,
The aircraft is an Avro Shackleton MR2, a maritime recon developement of the WW2 Avro Lancaster and the post war Avro Lincoln. used by the RAF in the maritime role from the early 60s until the early 70s when the Nimrod took over. The South Africans also used the Mk3 version which had a tricycle landing gear, they still have one flying.
In the early 70s several MR2 Shackletons were converted to the AEW role by the addition of the APS 20 radar from the Royal Navy Gannets, as a supposed "interim solution" to the problems the AEW version of the Nimrod was having. They never did solve the Nimrods problems so the "Shack" soldiered on until the early 90s.... Britains first line of defence was dependant on a 1950s piston engined bomber and a 1940s developed radar! .... Until the Brit Gov finally decided to by the Boeing E-3D AWACS
The last flyable AEW2 Shackleton WL790 "Mr McHenry" (named from a character in a kids TV show) was flying in the US until recently but has now been moved to the Pima museum in Tuscon. Ther are quite few left in Museums in the UK, Duxford, Newark and also at Coventry Airport. There are 2 more becoming derelict at Paphos Airport in Cyprus... visible on Google Earth Avro Shackleton's Page - Coastal Command - Maritime Reconnaisance - Royal Air Force 1951-92 Avro Shackleton FAIREY GANNET - HISTORY | |
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01-31-2008, 04:08 PM
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Country: | Thanks, Wingnuts. I am really surprised to see a relativley new aircraft
dragging it's tail. Thanks for the pic's.
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01-31-2008, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ccheese Thanks, Wingnuts. I am really surprised to see a relativley new aircraft
dragging it's tail. Thanks for the pic's.
Charles | It first flew (as a tail dragger) in 1949 ... they eventually came out with the Mk3 tricycle gear version in 1955 although the older Mk2 AEW tail dragger outlasted them by about 20 years.
The Mk3 was much heavier and was later fitted with 2 Viper jets (burning Avgas) in the O/B nacelles behind the Griffons. This, along with the extra weight, caused much more stress on the airframes which is why the Mk2s lasted longer.
We made many trips to US bases, including Cigli (Turkey) Charleston, Dyess, McLelland, Hickam, Wake Island, and Anderson (Guam) and we were always the centre of attention in our "vintage" aircraft.... often greeted by "Hey!@, I did not know you guys still used Lancasters"  Airborne Early Warning: The temporary solution!
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01-31-2008, 05:28 PM
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Notice the 2 engines feathered on the same side in the above photo doing the low pass over the beach (Majunga, Madagascar)..... saves covering everone in engine oil.... RR Griffon engines had a bit of a reputation
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02-11-2008, 03:07 PM
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02-11-2008, 03:19 PM
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02-12-2008, 10:10 AM
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Forced to retire when my back went out and my O-6 told me he wouldn't recommend my promotion to O-4 because "A Major who walks bent over doesn't look right".  So, I'm now a retired Captain, still married to that same Polish-American Catholic girl!
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