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lesofprimus · 08-07-2005, 10:04 AM

The SAW is great, but the stopping power of the 5.56mm is not as preferred as the heavier M60 and its 7.62.... Im not sure what the modern cyclic rates for both are now....

I always thought the SAW was slightly lighter than the M60 though... Smaller rounds = lighter load....

I suppose the "C" is for Canada, eh???

Nonskimmer · 08-07-2005, 10:06 AM

What else?

P38 Pilot · 08-07-2005, 10:06 AM

5.56mm? You would think that it was lighter from what you said Les.

lesofprimus · 08-07-2005, 10:18 AM

Huh?

Chocks away! · 08-07-2005, 10:34 AM

Hey I just joined the Cypriot national guard. (This is why my brilliant posts were absent for a month) Lots of anti-turkish propaganda. But hey! An army needs an enemy doesn't it? We swore the military oath on Friday. You should have seen all the girls cheering! Learning to burp, spit and fart all the time as well as fire a gun. Hoping to join the airforce. Tally-ho!
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P38 Pilot · 08-07-2005, 10:34 AM

I was refering to what you said about the SAW. You think it would be lighter because it used 5.56mm.

P38 Pilot · 08-07-2005, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocks away!

Hey I just joined the Cypriot national guard. (This is why my brilliant posts were absent for a month) Lots of anti-turkish propaganda. But hey! An army needs an enemy doesn't it? We swore the military oath on Friday. You should have seen all the girls cheering! Learning to burp, spit and fart all the time as well as fire a gun. Hoping to join the airforce. Tally-ho!
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Congrats Chocks! I want too go into the National Guard if i want to persue with ROTC. Heck, maybe they will let me into the Army!

Chocks away! · 08-07-2005, 10:45 AM

Actually it's compulsory down here Lol. Still many people ask for a psychologist and say they can't stand it etc to get out. And the airforce only has helicopters, which only proffessional pilots fly. So being in the airforce basicaly means lots of leave and a cool uniform. Suites me!

evangilder · 08-07-2005, 10:57 AM

I was fortunate to never have to carry the M-60. But then, I had to carry that friggin radio, which was heavy enough! At the time, I weighed all of about 130 lbs, so it was a bit of a struggle, but I managed.

My worst experince with that radio was doing an LZ insertion during airbase defense school. I had not tightened the straps on the radio. I saw red smoke as we circled in (Hot LZ, incoming fire). I jumped out of the helo and hit the ground. Well the loose radio shifted forward as I hit the ground. It hit me on the back of the head, forcing my face forward. My rifle hit the ground about the same time my chin hit the rear peep-site.

That really pissed me off. I tossed the radio off my back and zig zag ran toward the tree line with my miles gear indicating close ones. I managed to take out 4 guys without taking a single hit. Pure dumb luck, I guess. I got dinged for leaving the radio, but I was pissed!

P38 Pilot · 08-07-2005, 05:11 PM

Wow, amazing story Evanglider! Whne that radio hit your head i bet it hurt like the bejesus!

evangilder · 08-08-2005, 01:17 AM

It wasn't that bad, I was wearing a steel pot at the time. More of a surprise than anything. What hurt was when I busted my chin open on the site.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-08-2005, 08:00 AM

It is the same in Germany. When I turned 18 I was conscripted in the German Bundeswehr. They wanted me to be a tank driver and I wanted to fly so I ran off to the United States and now I am in the US Army.

P38 Pilot · 08-08-2005, 09:20 AM

You mean the Germans dont use the same names as they did in WWII like Luftwaffe or Panzer?

marconi · 08-08-2005, 10:04 AM

Why do you think so P38?Ther's nothing in his post that can make you think so.

P38 Pilot · 08-08-2005, 10:09 AM

I have always been curious about if the Germans still used the same names.

08-07-2005, 10:04 AM	#136
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,503	The SAW is great, but the stopping power of the 5.56mm is not as preferred as the heavier M60 and its 7.62.... Im not sure what the modern cyclic rates for both are now.... I always thought the SAW was slightly lighter than the M60 though... Smaller rounds = lighter load.... I suppose the "C" is for Canada, eh??? __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

08-07-2005, 10:06 AM	#138
P38 Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auburn,Alabama; USA Posts: 1,822	5.56mm? You would think that it was lighter from what you said Les. __________________ Its better to have an Army of deer being led by a lion, rather an Army of Lions being led by a deer...

08-07-2005, 10:18 AM	#139
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,503	Huh? __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

08-07-2005, 10:34 AM	#140
Chocks away! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cyprus Posts: 336	Hey I just joined the Cypriot national guard. (This is why my brilliant posts were absent for a month) Lots of anti-turkish propaganda. But hey! An army needs an enemy doesn't it? We swore the military oath on Friday. You should have seen all the girls cheering! Learning to burp, spit and fart all the time as well as fire a gun. Hoping to join the airforce. Tally-ho! (this is like a letter ) __________________ And now for something completely different...

08-07-2005, 10:34 AM	#141
P38 Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auburn,Alabama; USA Posts: 1,822	I was refering to what you said about the SAW. You think it would be lighter because it used 5.56mm. __________________ Its better to have an Army of deer being led by a lion, rather an Army of Lions being led by a deer...

08-07-2005, 10:06 AM	#137
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	What else?

08-07-2005, 10:45 AM	#143
Chocks away! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cyprus Posts: 336	Actually it's compulsory down here Lol. Still many people ask for a psychologist and say they can't stand it etc to get out. And the airforce only has helicopters, which only proffessional pilots fly. So being in the airforce basicaly means lots of leave and a cool uniform. Suites me! __________________ And now for something completely different...

08-07-2005, 10:57 AM	#144
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	I was fortunate to never have to carry the M-60. But then, I had to carry that friggin radio, which was heavy enough! At the time, I weighed all of about 130 lbs, so it was a bit of a struggle, but I managed. My worst experince with that radio was doing an LZ insertion during airbase defense school. I had not tightened the straps on the radio. I saw red smoke as we circled in (Hot LZ, incoming fire). I jumped out of the helo and hit the ground. Well the loose radio shifted forward as I hit the ground. It hit me on the back of the head, forcing my face forward. My rifle hit the ground about the same time my chin hit the rear peep-site. That really pissed me off. I tossed the radio off my back and zig zag ran toward the tree line with my miles gear indicating close ones. I managed to take out 4 guys without taking a single hit. Pure dumb luck, I guess. I got dinged for leaving the radio, but I was pissed! __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

08-07-2005, 05:11 PM	#145
P38 Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auburn,Alabama; USA Posts: 1,822	Wow, amazing story Evanglider! Whne that radio hit your head i bet it hurt like the bejesus! __________________ Its better to have an Army of deer being led by a lion, rather an Army of Lions being led by a deer...

08-08-2005, 01:17 AM	#146
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	It wasn't that bad, I was wearing a steel pot at the time. More of a surprise than anything. What hurt was when I busted my chin open on the site. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

08-08-2005, 08:00 AM	#147
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	It is the same in Germany. When I turned 18 I was conscripted in the German Bundeswehr. They wanted me to be a tank driver and I wanted to fly so I ran off to the United States and now I am in the US Army. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

08-08-2005, 09:20 AM	#148
P38 Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auburn,Alabama; USA Posts: 1,822	You mean the Germans dont use the same names as they did in WWII like Luftwaffe or Panzer? __________________ Its better to have an Army of deer being led by a lion, rather an Army of Lions being led by a deer...

08-08-2005, 10:04 AM	#149
marconi Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kiev, Ukraine Posts: 251	Why do you think so P38?Ther's nothing in his post that can make you think so.

08-08-2005, 10:09 AM	#150
P38 Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auburn,Alabama; USA Posts: 1,822	I have always been curious about if the Germans still used the same names. __________________ Its better to have an Army of deer being led by a lion, rather an Army of Lions being led by a deer...

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