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evangilder · 08-06-2005, 01:08 AM

Well, he's either there or at PI.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-06-2005, 01:38 AM

I got an email from him the other day, He is shipping out for Iraq soon.

evangilder · 08-06-2005, 02:03 AM

Wish him luck for us. Luck and Godspeed.

Nonskimmer · 08-06-2005, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

I got an email from him the other day, He is shipping out for Iraq soon.

Best of luck to him. Godspeed.

lesofprimus · 08-06-2005, 10:52 AM

Tell him to keep his **** ing head down and keep the selector OFF full auto...

evangilder · 08-06-2005, 10:56 AM

Didn't that get drilled into our heads?! I fired my weapon on full auto only one time. That was at the range so I could see what it was like. Proved to me that it was wasting lead. Our small arms instructor had us do it so we could see what it was like and to see that full auto is really only good for hollywood movies.

Nonskimmer · 08-06-2005, 11:03 AM

I've done it at the range only, with C-7's (M-16) and MP-5's, and it sure ain't like the movies.

evangilder · 08-06-2005, 11:07 AM

Nope! With the M-16, it was completely worthless for me. I missed marksman by 2 points, so I wasn't a bad shot. But on full auto, I don't think I would be able to hit the broadside of a barn...from inside

Nonskimmer · 08-06-2005, 11:12 AM

At 300 yards I didn't hit sh*t, and at 25 and 50 yards I had a nice upward diagonal pattern going to the right.

lesofprimus · 08-06-2005, 12:33 PM

The MP-5 was a better weapon to shoot on full auto than the M-16... The only time we used full auto was on withdrawls to clear an area...

The M4A1 however, with its forward hand grip, is better than both of em...

Nonskimmer · 08-06-2005, 12:39 PM

The MP-5 is great to fire. The C8 carbine we use is basically an M4. I've fired that too on full auto, but not with the fore-grip. I'd imagine it would be a lot better for control.

P38 Pilot · 08-06-2005, 07:55 PM

Alder, tell your friend i said good luck, thank you, and shoot up some insurgent ass!

Oh yeah, do ROTC guys get too use guns if they do some training?

Medvedya · 08-06-2005, 09:08 PM

Dunno about how they do things in the States, but erm, that's the general idea here.

Thing is though, after 20 seconds of 'A gun! Great! Ain't I the big badass!' a couple of things start to become apparant once the intial novelty has worn off.

They become heavy, they chafe your shoulder, they have to be cleaned, you call it a 'gun' at your peril. (It's a rifle!)

After a couple of weekend exercises I just saw them as any other tool - a 5kg lump of plastic and metal.

Antique firearms and their history are far more interesting.

P38 Pilot · 08-06-2005, 11:08 PM

Im going to take that you dont like the present day guns

. I kinda like the m-16 because it sure did outclass the m-14! Nothing wrong with the M-14 because it was a beautiful gun but had a kickback like a mule!

plan_D · 08-06-2005, 11:18 PM

The SLR is a beautiful assault rifle. My dad was on the last guard to use the SLR in RAF Finningley. A beautiful piece of kit; he was out before he had to be introduced to the SA-80.

08-06-2005, 01:08 AM	#106
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Well, he's either there or at PI. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

08-06-2005, 01:38 AM	#107
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	I got an email from him the other day, He is shipping out for Iraq soon. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

08-06-2005, 02:03 AM	#108
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Wish him luck for us. Luck and Godspeed. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

08-06-2005, 10:52 AM	#110
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,506	Tell him to keep his **** ing head down and keep the selector OFF full auto... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

08-06-2005, 10:56 AM	#111
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Didn't that get drilled into our heads?! I fired my weapon on full auto only one time. That was at the range so I could see what it was like. Proved to me that it was wasting lead. Our small arms instructor had us do it so we could see what it was like and to see that full auto is really only good for hollywood movies. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

08-06-2005, 11:03 AM	#112
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	I've done it at the range only, with C-7's (M-16) and MP-5's, and it sure ain't like the movies.

08-06-2005, 11:07 AM	#113
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Nope! With the M-16, it was completely worthless for me. I missed marksman by 2 points, so I wasn't a bad shot. But on full auto, I don't think I would be able to hit the broadside of a barn...from inside __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

08-06-2005, 11:12 AM	#114
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	At 300 yards I didn't hit sh*t, and at 25 and 50 yards I had a nice upward diagonal pattern going to the right.

08-06-2005, 12:39 PM	#116
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	The MP-5 is great to fire. The C8 carbine we use is basically an M4. I've fired that too on full auto, but not with the fore-grip. I'd imagine it would be a lot better for control.

08-06-2005, 07:55 PM	#117
P38 Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auburn,Alabama; USA Posts: 1,822	Alder, tell your friend i said good luck, thank you, and shoot up some insurgent ass! Oh yeah, do ROTC guys get too use guns if they do some training? __________________ Its better to have an Army of deer being led by a lion, rather an Army of Lions being led by a deer...

08-06-2005, 09:08 PM	#118
Medvedya Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,386	Dunno about how they do things in the States, but erm, that's the general idea here. Thing is though, after 20 seconds of 'A gun! Great! Ain't I the big badass!' a couple of things start to become apparant once the intial novelty has worn off. They become heavy, they chafe your shoulder, they have to be cleaned, you call it a 'gun' at your peril. (It's a rifle!) After a couple of weekend exercises I just saw them as any other tool - a 5kg lump of plastic and metal. Antique firearms and their history are far more interesting.

08-06-2005, 11:08 PM	#119
P38 Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auburn,Alabama; USA Posts: 1,822	Im going to take that you dont like the present day guns . I kinda like the m-16 because it sure did outclass the m-14! Nothing wrong with the M-14 because it was a beautiful gun but had a kickback like a mule! __________________ Its better to have an Army of deer being led by a lion, rather an Army of Lions being led by a deer...

08-06-2005, 11:18 PM	#120
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	The SLR is a beautiful assault rifle. My dad was on the last guard to use the SLR in RAF Finningley. A beautiful piece of kit; he was out before he had to be introduced to the SA-80. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

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