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08-02-2006, 12:34 AM
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#76 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Yep I agree 100% with the C-47, but I'm also gonna give a very honourable mention to the PBY.
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08-02-2006, 03:25 AM
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#77 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | 1. C-47 'Skytrain' - It carried the war effort of so many countries in it's hold.
2. Spitfire - Was on the front from day one until the end, on every front.
3. Fw-190 - Held its own against any Allied fighter.
4. P-51 'Mustang' - Carried the bombing campaign on it's shoulders.
5. B-29 'Superfortress' - The 'Nuke' bomber, need I say more?
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08-02-2006, 03:45 PM
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#78 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | To me, what separates the Spitfire between the Mustang was, that though the Spitfire was an amazing plane, the pilots needed to be trained hard on how to use it properly,usually pilots flew the Hurricanes before they ever caught a glimpse of a Spit, whereas with the Mustang, you could put a rookie pilot in the cockpit of a p-51 and buddy could go into a dogfight and do some serious damage, that is a big deal.
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08-03-2006, 03:49 PM
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#79 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | I like pDs list up there. The only thing I would change would be swapping the Fw-190 over the Spitfire and only for the reason that I believe they were pretty much equal and well I am biased to the Fw-190! 
Great list there pD.
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08-03-2006, 04:02 PM
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Country: | Yep it is a good list, I would leave it as it is because I am the opposite of you Adler being biased towards the Spitfire...
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08-03-2006, 05:13 PM
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| But since the Mustang could fly to where the fighting was, that gives it a leg up on either the Spit or the -190
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08-03-2006, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by plan_D 1. C-47 'Skytrain' - It carried the war effort of so many countries in it's hold.
2. Spitfire - Was on the front from day one until the end, on every front.
3. Fw-190 - Held its own against any Allied fighter.
4. P-51 'Mustang' - Carried the bombing campaign on it's shoulders.
5. B-29 'Superfortress' - The 'Nuke' bomber, need I say more? |
Yup I don't think I would change that list.
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08-03-2006, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by syscom3 But since the Mustang could fly to where the fighting was, that gives it a leg up on either the Spit or the -190 | But wasn't the Mustang taking the fight to the -190? 
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08-03-2006, 11:47 PM
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| While the Spitfire was keeping the British isles safe, the P51 was flying to the far reaches of the Reich, chasing down the -190.
And as has been proven by many people arguing over thir favorite birds, none of them were magnitudes better than the others. They all had similar charchteristics. The one excpetion being range. Thats where the Mustang excelled.
Range has a quality all of its own.
Id look at the greatest planes of the Pacific war.
1: C47 (to an even bigger degree than in Europe, the C47 was vital)
2: P38
3: F4U
4: B25
5: F6F
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08-04-2006, 01:37 AM
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#85 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I dont give a **** about range right now syscom because once the Fw-190 and the P-51D were in combat over the Reich range was no longer a factor. The Fw-190 would have more fuel than the P-51 at that point anyhow.
The Fw-190 was overall a better fighter than the P-51, so basically its just your opinion and I disagree with your opinion. Live with your opinion and let others live with theres.
One on one the P-51 was not better than the Fw-190.
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08-04-2006, 01:44 AM
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| With the piloting being equal, the P51 would rack even with the -190.
Range is everything.
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08-04-2006, 03:34 AM
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#87 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | with regards to the no.5 plane couldn't it be argued that it was the weapon not the means of deliverly that was great?
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08-04-2006, 06:00 AM
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#88 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | With or without equal pilots, the P-51D was no equal to the Fw 190D-9 in single combat...
I cant believe anyone with an informed opinion would even think otherwise, but then again, we are talking about syscom here...
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08-04-2006, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks *** with regards to the no.5 plane couldn't it be argued that it was the weapon not the means of deliverly that was great? | I don't think so. The B-29 was the most advanced bomber of the time on the allied side. Pressurized cockpit, remote gun sites that were computerized, the radios, navigational aids and sighting systems were all well beyond anything else and it could carry a tremendous load for a long distance.
The 2 that dropped the atomic bombs were 2 of 15 special variants, "Silverplate" specifically made for the drops.
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08-04-2006, 08:28 AM
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#90 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by syscom3 With the piloting being equal, the P51 would rack even with the -190.
Range is everything.
If you cant fly to the party, you aint going to dance. | We are not talking about going to you so called dance, we are talking about dancing.
In "dancing" there were many aircraft superior to the P-51D including the Spitfire and Fw-190D-9.
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