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Old 08-04-2006, 09:15 AM   #91
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With or without equal pilots, the P-51D was no equal to the Fw 190D-9 in single combat...

I cant believe anyone with an informed opinion would even think otherwise, but then again, we are talking about syscom here...
P51's shot down -190's all the time. And vice versa.

If the -190 was superior to the P51, then you would see lots of P51 losses and not as many -190 losses.

They were matched fairly evenly
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P51's shot down -190's all the time. And vice versa.

If the -190 was superior to the P51, then you would see lots of P51 losses and not as many -190 losses.

They were matched fairly evenly
Statistically they might of been evenly matched and a lot of that has to do with pilot skill and numbers (The USAAF was totally outnumbering the Luftwaffe). If you look at both aircraft from their technical characteristics the FW-190D was a superior aircraft.
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:49 AM   #93
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You might be right. I was thinking more of the "A" models vs the P51.

I was looking at some of the 8th AF mission stats for middle 1944 and didnt see any lopsided losses incurred by the P51 groups.
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Oh my god did he just agree with us on something? I am proud of you syscom!
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yes, i did.

Flyboy does explain things in a calm and dignified way
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yes, i did.

Flyboy does explain things in a calm and dignified way
gee....thanks!
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yes, i did.

Flyboy does explain things in a calm and dignified way
So does just about everyone else here at first. We just get frustrated with you easier....
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But wasn't the Mustang taking the fight to the -190?
It was taking the fight to the Luftwaffe
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Theres more to fighting a war than the fighters and the bombers.
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Basically there is more to WW2 aviation than fighters and more than just fighters and bombers that won the war.
Definetley the DH Tiger Moth. Was flown by many before, during and after the war and was a classic!

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Definetley the DH Tiger Moth. Was flown by many before, during and after the war and was a classic!

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Worthy of mention but did not have the impact of the C-47....
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Oh boy...

Lets see.

1. She was a 2 seat trainer? Yeah trainers are worthy of mentioning because they teach the fighter pilots how to fly but there were better trainers our there than the biplane Tiger Moth such as the T-6 Texan.

2. Fully loaded she topped out at 1825 lb which means she could not carry the weight that the cargo aircraft could such as the C-47. She could not carry a decent amount of bombs if any so that takes her out of the running as a bomber aircraft and she could not tangle with any of the Luftwaffe fighters so that takes her out of the running there.

3. Top speed was 109 mph at 1,000 ft (175 km/h at 300 m), not very impressive even for a trainer. Range was 302 mi (486 km) which was not a lot, and had a cieling of only 13,600ft which is not where most of the air war was being fought over Europe.

She was a good primary trainer but had no impact on the war and there for was not the Greatest Aircraft of World War 2.
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