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08-04-2006, 09:15 AM
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If the -190 was superior to the P51, then you would see lots of P51 losses and not as many -190 losses. They were matched fairly evenly
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08-04-2006, 09:30 AM
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08-04-2006, 09:49 AM
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| You might be right. I was thinking more of the "A" models vs the P51. I was looking at some of the 8th AF mission stats for middle 1944 and didnt see any lopsided losses incurred by the P51 groups.
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08-04-2006, 10:59 AM
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| Oh my god did he just agree with us on something? I am proud of you syscom!
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08-04-2006, 12:21 PM
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| yes, i did. Flyboy does explain things in a calm and dignified way
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08-04-2006, 12:34 PM
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08-04-2006, 05:45 PM
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08-05-2006, 04:03 AM
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08-08-2006, 06:22 PM
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__________________ Hello me...meet the real me. And my misfits way of life. A dark black past is my Most valued possession. Hindsight is always 20-20, But looking back its still a bit fuzzy. Speak of mutually assured destruction? Nice story...tell it to readers digest!!! | |
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08-09-2006, 09:49 AM
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08-09-2006, 12:13 PM
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|  Theres more to fighting a war than the fighters and the bombers.
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08-09-2006, 01:03 PM
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08-31-2006, 03:14 PM
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08-31-2006, 03:34 PM
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09-01-2006, 10:12 AM
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Oh boy... Lets see. 1. She was a 2 seat trainer? Yeah trainers are worthy of mentioning because they teach the fighter pilots how to fly but there were better trainers our there than the biplane Tiger Moth such as the T-6 Texan. 2. Fully loaded she topped out at 1825 lb which means she could not carry the weight that the cargo aircraft could such as the C-47. She could not carry a decent amount of bombs if any so that takes her out of the running as a bomber aircraft and she could not tangle with any of the Luftwaffe fighters so that takes her out of the running there. 3. Top speed was 109 mph at 1,000 ft (175 km/h at 300 m), not very impressive even for a trainer. Range was 302 mi (486 km) which was not a lot, and had a cieling of only 13,600ft which is not where most of the air war was being fought over Europe. She was a good primary trainer but had no impact on the war and there for was not the Greatest Aircraft of World War 2.
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