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comiso90 · 07-30-2009, 10:59 AM

Also for you those of you that arent aware, just this year things changed when the Recording Industry started suing, and winning against, users that do the actual downloading. It's not just the site owner who is at risk...

Federal jury finds Jammie Thomas-Rasset guilty of illegally downloading 24 songs
Minnesota wife, mom slapped with fine of $80,000 per song, for total of $1.9 million
Woman fined to tune of $1.9 million for illegal downloads - CNN.com

The IP address (computers owners ID) is captured by this site and may be subpoenaed by the court.

I didn't think this was a big deal before but when this site not only officialy sanctions piracy, the members responsible are given Kudos, congrats and an "award" in a very visible way by most of the Mods you guys are begg'n for a bruisin.

This is no different than posting High Rez aviation images and encouraging users to download them w/o the permission or knowledge of the photog...... a subject that has been moralized at length.

All it takes is some 15 year old A$$ wipe with a grudge against this forum to cause a whole world of hurt.]

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lesofprimus · 07-30-2009, 04:14 PM

Hmmmm.... Ill tell ya Frank, I think u might be gettin alittle deep on this... People can copy files and videos from YouTube with a simple program as u know... If there was some sort of "witch hunt" for those that uploaded and/or downloaded these copyrighted video montages and segments of documentaries, I would be somewhat alarmed and caution sunny to only upload certain types of non-copyrighted materials....

At this time, I dont think theres anything to be concerned with involving any sort of legal action against the sites owner, sunny or anyone that downloads one of his files....

And in reality, the number of files that sunny has uploaded that would possbily fall into this catogory u could count on one hand.... Im glad that u spoke up and said something tho Frank, as it is something to keep an eye on in the future of BS legal actions by our wonderful government.....

And I just cant seem to come to terms with what u posted abouve about the Mom getting fined for 24 songs... Theres people who have 10's of thousands of illegally copied songs, and the best that these scumbag ******* watchdogs could do was this???? Guaranteed this is the very first case of this sort to go to trial and all, but still, gimmie a frickin break, my tax dollars gettin flushed down the sh!tter so the Feds can bust a Hockey Mom from Minnnesota....

Thorlifter · 07-30-2009, 08:10 PM

Thank you for your contribution to the board Sunny.

Thorlifter · 07-30-2009, 08:15 PM

The RIAA also posted this year they are no longer pursuing downloaders as it has just been too expensive. They are leaving it up to, and assisting when needed, you ISP to monitor heavy downloaders. In that case, the ISP will send you a cease and desist letter. Then, if you continue, they will cut your connection speed to dial up speed.

I personally know three people this happened to and all three of these guys were downloading gig's of movies, games, and songs every day.

Catch22 · 07-31-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorlifter

I personally know three people this happened to and all three of these guys were downloading gig's of movies, games, and songs every day.

Exactly. If you download a few songs a day, and the odd movie here and there (which is really what most people do), it's not going to be an issue.

comiso90 · 07-31-2009, 03:02 PM

As for the prosecution of individuals... I agree and that the chance is slight and I only mentioned it as a side note but people may not realize that they are in fact committing a crime. My concern is for the site. They will be more harsh on publishers (the site) than individuals. Why take the risk?

Three facts
Openly posting illegally obtained files for download is certainly risky and unquestionably against the law.

This forum officially encourages peer to peer pirated materials.

There is a moral proselytizing when it comes to illegally obtaining photos and text. This is no different. It's like saying., "Kill the Somali pirate bastards, cut their balls off! ...Oh wait... they have a container ship of ipods and DVDs? COOOL! how much?" Why is the work of a video/film professional devalued? next time someone complains about proper citation of a photo or text... you'll hear me groaning all the way from FL.

Downloaded files can propagate logarithmically. One person downloads and gives or sells to two others... they in turn share it with their friends. Before long, you could have 20 people with contraband materials from one source.... this site.

nevermind the tangent about the individuals... this site is exposing itself to unnecessary risk. At least put them in a locked thread! Many long time users feel comfortable here.. it's easy to forget that the whole world has access to this site.

FYI.. new search engine technology is underway that can search for audio waveform matches in audio and video files. Sample 10 seconds of a video... hit "search" and you'll see where it's posted.

also... Dan... I see more risk in posting entire shows from sources like "NOVA" than editing to a montage. maybe I'm naive but i dont think they'd care about a montage but they will certainly be interested in knowing that entire shows are posted..

A montage i edited was removed from YouTube because of Rights Violations. IMO there is a big difference between editing a montage to music and uploading an entire made for broadcast TV show. The Montage if anything would encourage people to go out and buy the music... It pumps me up. no one is going to take the audio from a youtube video and use it in their ipod

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comiso90 · 07-31-2009, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorlifter

The RIAA also posted this year they are no longer pursuing downloaders as it has just been too expensive. .

I believe that.... It's much better to go after the sites!

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comiso90 · 07-31-2009, 09:03 PM

Please delete my comments if appropriate... I stand by them but they don't need to be public. I should have voiced my concerns to the Mods... but there is no "E-Mail all mods function"

lesofprimus · 08-01-2009, 09:42 AM

U coulda just buzzed me Frank, but ur comments are fine where theyre at man...

07-30-2009, 10:59 AM	#31
comiso90 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 3,294	Woman fined $1.9 million for illegal downloads Also for you those of you that arent aware, just this year things changed when the Recording Industry started suing, and winning against, users that do the actual downloading. It's not just the site owner who is at risk... Federal jury finds Jammie Thomas-Rasset guilty of illegally downloading 24 songs Minnesota wife, mom slapped with fine of $80,000 per song, for total of $1.9 million Woman fined to tune of $1.9 million for illegal downloads - CNN.com The IP address (computers owners ID) is captured by this site and may be subpoenaed by the court. I didn't think this was a big deal before but when this site not only officialy sanctions piracy, the members responsible are given Kudos, congrats and an "award" in a very visible way by most of the Mods you guys are begg'n for a bruisin. This is no different than posting High Rez aviation images and encouraging users to download them w/o the permission or knowledge of the photog...... a subject that has been moralized at length. All it takes is some 15 year old A$$ wipe with a grudge against this forum to cause a whole world of hurt.] . __________________ http://www.BOOKSonWAR.com/ . Last edited by comiso90; 07-30-2009 at 03:08 PM.

07-30-2009, 04:14 PM	#32
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,490	Hmmmm.... Ill tell ya Frank, I think u might be gettin alittle deep on this... People can copy files and videos from YouTube with a simple program as u know... If there was some sort of "witch hunt" for those that uploaded and/or downloaded these copyrighted video montages and segments of documentaries, I would be somewhat alarmed and caution sunny to only upload certain types of non-copyrighted materials.... At this time, I dont think theres anything to be concerned with involving any sort of legal action against the sites owner, sunny or anyone that downloads one of his files.... And in reality, the number of files that sunny has uploaded that would possbily fall into this catogory u could count on one hand.... Im glad that u spoke up and said something tho Frank, as it is something to keep an eye on in the future of BS legal actions by our wonderful government..... And I just cant seem to come to terms with what u posted abouve about the Mom getting fined for 24 songs... Theres people who have 10's of thousands of illegally copied songs, and the best that these scumbag ******* watchdogs could do was this???? Guaranteed this is the very first case of this sort to go to trial and all, but still, gimmie a frickin break, my tax dollars gettin flushed down the sh!tter so the Feds can bust a Hockey Mom from Minnnesota.... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

07-30-2009, 08:10 PM	#33
Thorlifter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 4,345	Thank you for your contribution to the board Sunny. __________________

07-30-2009, 08:15 PM	#34
Thorlifter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 4,345	The RIAA also posted this year they are no longer pursuing downloaders as it has just been too expensive. They are leaving it up to, and assisting when needed, you ISP to monitor heavy downloaders. In that case, the ISP will send you a cease and desist letter. Then, if you continue, they will cut your connection speed to dial up speed. I personally know three people this happened to and all three of these guys were downloading gig's of movies, games, and songs every day. __________________

07-31-2009, 03:02 PM	#36
comiso90 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 3,294	As for the prosecution of individuals... I agree and that the chance is slight and I only mentioned it as a side note but people may not realize that they are in fact committing a crime. My concern is for the site. They will be more harsh on publishers (the site) than individuals. Why take the risk? Three facts Openly posting illegally obtained files for download is certainly risky and unquestionably against the law. This forum officially encourages peer to peer pirated materials. There is a moral proselytizing when it comes to illegally obtaining photos and text. This is no different. It's like saying., "Kill the Somali pirate bastards, cut their balls off! ...Oh wait... they have a container ship of ipods and DVDs? COOOL! how much?" Why is the work of a video/film professional devalued? next time someone complains about proper citation of a photo or text... you'll hear me groaning all the way from FL. Downloaded files can propagate logarithmically. One person downloads and gives or sells to two others... they in turn share it with their friends. Before long, you could have 20 people with contraband materials from one source.... this site. nevermind the tangent about the individuals... this site is exposing itself to unnecessary risk. At least put them in a locked thread! Many long time users feel comfortable here.. it's easy to forget that the whole world has access to this site. FYI.. new search engine technology is underway that can search for audio waveform matches in audio and video files. Sample 10 seconds of a video... hit "search" and you'll see where it's posted. also... Dan... I see more risk in posting entire shows from sources like "NOVA" than editing to a montage. maybe I'm naive but i dont think they'd care about a montage but they will certainly be interested in knowing that entire shows are posted.. A montage i edited was removed from YouTube because of Rights Violations. IMO there is a big difference between editing a montage to music and uploading an entire made for broadcast TV show. The Montage if anything would encourage people to go out and buy the music... It pumps me up. no one is going to take the audio from a youtube video and use it in their ipod . . __________________ http://www.BOOKSonWAR.com/ . Last edited by comiso90; 07-31-2009 at 06:03 PM.

07-31-2009, 09:03 PM	#38
comiso90 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 3,294	Please delete my comments if appropriate... I stand by them but they don't need to be public. I should have voiced my concerns to the Mods... but there is no "E-Mail all mods function" __________________ http://www.BOOKSonWAR.com/ .

08-01-2009, 09:42 AM	#39
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,490	U coulda just buzzed me Frank, but ur comments are fine where theyre at man... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

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