400-year-old law books headed back to Germany - Aircraft of World War II

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 10-06-2009, 06:51 PM

Kind of thought this was interesting...

400-year-old law books headed back to Germany

By WILLIAM C. MANN, Associated Press Writer William C. Mann, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 56 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Germany got back two 400-year-old law books Tuesday from a former American soldier who took them as souvenirs from a salt mine storage vault in the closing months of World War II.

Robert Thomas was an 18-year-old member of George Patton's Third Army, 90th Division, when he took the books — one in Latin, the other in German. He returned them to German Ambassador Klaus Scharioth in a ceremony Tuesday at the National Archives building.

"The books will go home because it's the right thing to do," said Thomas, of Chula Vista, Calif., at the ceremony.

Thomas was recuperating from wounds caused by "Screaming Mimis," the German Nebelwerfer artillery rocket, sustained as he and other soldiers fought to break the Siegfried line, invade Germany and end the war in Europe. Thomas said a young lieutenant pulled him out of his recuperation center, and they rode a motorcycle into Ransbach, where people were hanging out white flags.

There they found a mine, 2,500 feet below the surface, that contained some 2 million books.

At least 15 million books were lost to U.S. and British bombers as they pounded the German heartland ahead of the eventual invasion, according to U.S. archivist Greg Bradsher.

The Germans stored valuables in monasteries, castles and other redoubts until after the Allied invasion of Normandy in June 1944. Salt mines were chosen as well for their ability to protection the artifacts by absorbing moisture.

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Aaron Brooks Wolters · 10-06-2009, 07:17 PM

Cool and very noble to.

RabidAlien · 10-06-2009, 07:48 PM

Wonder how many other lost treasures/artifacts such as this are simply laying in someone's attic or basement right now?

parsifal · 10-06-2009, 10:30 PM

The claims and counter claims concerning the return of historical artifacts, following wwII is staggering. Germany took a lot from allover Europe whilst she was winning, and then as the the allies advanced, the reverse happened. The russians in particular are gbuilty of appropriating works from allover europe in this way. The allies tended to make off with stuff by individuals rather than state sponsored theft.

I really dont know what to think on this issue. Who owns the artifact after so long????? open question really

proton45 · 10-06-2009, 10:51 PM

The guy is obviously "making piece" with himself...his actions display an uncommon sense of morality.

It will be interesting to see if any other veterans follow suit...

wheelsup_cavu · 10-07-2009, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RabidAlien

Wonder how many other lost treasures/artifacts such as this are simply laying in someone's attic or basement right now?

I thought the same thing when I read the article.

Wheels

10-06-2009, 06:51 PM	#1
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	400-year-old law books headed back to Germany Kind of thought this was interesting... 400-year-old law books headed back to Germany By WILLIAM C. MANN, Associated Press Writer William C. Mann, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 56 mins ago WASHINGTON – Germany got back two 400-year-old law books Tuesday from a former American soldier who took them as souvenirs from a salt mine storage vault in the closing months of World War II. Robert Thomas was an 18-year-old member of George Patton's Third Army, 90th Division, when he took the books — one in Latin, the other in German. He returned them to German Ambassador Klaus Scharioth in a ceremony Tuesday at the National Archives building. "The books will go home because it's the right thing to do," said Thomas, of Chula Vista, Calif., at the ceremony. Thomas was recuperating from wounds caused by "Screaming Mimis," the German Nebelwerfer artillery rocket, sustained as he and other soldiers fought to break the Siegfried line, invade Germany and end the war in Europe. Thomas said a young lieutenant pulled him out of his recuperation center, and they rode a motorcycle into Ransbach, where people were hanging out white flags. There they found a mine, 2,500 feet below the surface, that contained some 2 million books. At least 15 million books were lost to U.S. and British bombers as they pounded the German heartland ahead of the eventual invasion, according to U.S. archivist Greg Bradsher. The Germans stored valuables in monasteries, castles and other redoubts until after the Allied invasion of Normandy in June 1944. Salt mines were chosen as well for their ability to protection the artifacts by absorbing moisture. 400-year-old law books headed back to Germany - Yahoo! News __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

10-06-2009, 07:48 PM	#3
RabidAlien Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hurst, Texas Posts: 2,825	Wonder how many other lost treasures/artifacts such as this are simply laying in someone's attic or basement right now? __________________ Pillage, then burn. Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well on toast.

10-06-2009, 10:30 PM	#4
parsifal Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,994	The claims and counter claims concerning the return of historical artifacts, following wwII is staggering. Germany took a lot from allover Europe whilst she was winning, and then as the the allies advanced, the reverse happened. The russians in particular are gbuilty of appropriating works from allover europe in this way. The allies tended to make off with stuff by individuals rather than state sponsored theft. I really dont know what to think on this issue. Who owns the artifact after so long????? open question really __________________ Do not judge on abilities, but on choices

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10-06-2009, 07:17 PM	#2
Aaron Brooks Wolters Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Abingdon, VA. Posts: 2,297	Cool and very noble to.

10-06-2009, 10:51 PM	#5
proton45 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 415	The guy is obviously "making piece" with himself...his actions display an uncommon sense of morality. It will be interesting to see if any other veterans follow suit...