The ACLU..... again !

ccheese · 12-21-2007, 07:04 PM

ACLU asks school to stop censoring lesbian symbol

Portsmouth, Va.
The American Civil Liberties Union demanded in a letter to
I.C. Norcom High School officials Thursday that they allow a
lesbian student to wear a T-shirt displaying “two interlocking
female symbols”. The female student is 17.

The organization contends that a teacher and an assistant
principal censored the student by requesting she not wear the shirt.
The father of the student, Michael Laccone contacted the ACLU
after she had reported the incident to him.

The ACLU wants officials to apologize to the student, not engage in
other such “censorship” and strike any disciplinary notices regarding
the incident from the student’s file.

School officials have until Jan. 11 to respond. A possible action by
the ACLU could include a lawsuit if the demands are not met, said
Rebecca Glenberg, a legal director of the ACLU of Virginia.

Attempts to reach officials and the division superintendent were
unsuccessful Thursday. However, Joseph L. Wiggins, the superintendent’s
executive assistant, said he had not seen the letter and could only speculate
why the student was reportedly asked not to wear the shirt.

Here we go again.......

Charles

Vassili Zaitzev · 12-21-2007, 09:15 PM

Why is it when someone is told not to wear a shirt, or something along that line, the ACLU comes in and accuses censorship, racisim, etc. It's like they have nothing better to do.

Anyway, thanks for the post.

ToughOmbre · 12-21-2007, 09:22 PM

F#CK THE ACLU

I apologise for the bad word, but they are the biggest danger this country faces, bar none.

TO

wilbur1 · 12-21-2007, 11:07 PM

A..American. C..Citizens. L.Losing. U. Unity. this is the problem with this country, we have to many idiots that are not aware of the threats around us, if you take a lib, to mexico he will not come back,........i.e. not functioning, which is very sad

Njaco · 12-22-2007, 06:25 AM

Regarding the issue with the school, that may have been heavy handed. Who freakin cares whats on the kids shirt unless its totally offensive. (I've been known to wear a shirt or 2 like that was really offensive

)

But the ACLU is a different story. They are the new communist threat. This is where I would like to se a law where whoever brings a lawsuit and loses must pay all the costs involved. I'm with TO. They have got to be the most dangerous in this country, bar none.

ccheese · 12-22-2007, 10:07 AM

PORTSMOUTH
Bethany Laccone can attend I.C. Norcom High School wearing a T-shirt that depicts a lesbian pride symbol, Principal Lynn Briley said Friday.

Briley's announcement came a day after the American Civil Liberties Union demanded that Norcom officials apologize to the 17-year-old student after a teacher and an assistant principal reportedly made her cover up the shirt and requested she not wear it to school.

The organization also requested, among other things, that officials not participate in other such "censorship" and remove any disciplinary notices related to the incident from Laccone's file.

"Yes, we did make a mistake," said Briley, adding that she had talked Thursday with the teacher and assistant principal who were involved.
Briley said she agreed with the ACLU that Laconne had been censored, but that no note had been placed in her file. She said she would apologize to the student and try to meet the other demands made by the ACLU.

Based on the recommendations of the division superintendent, "we're going to comply with the guidelines set by the ACLU as best as we can to resolve this matter," Briley said.

"That's very welcome news," said Rebecca Glenberg, legal director of the ACLU of Virginia. "We'll look forward to seeing the details of what exactly the school is going to do."

On Friday, Laconne, a Woodrow Wilson High School student who studies hotel management at Norcom, was happy to learn that she can return to Norcom wearing the shirt.

She said she hopes this initial victory will encourage other gay people to not fear displaying their pride through their clothing. "I hope that some people won't be scared to show who they are and can be proud of it," she said.
Her troubles started earlier this month.

Laconne said that on Dec. 10, the teacher and the assistant principal requested she conceal her lesbian pride T-shirt. She contends that she was threatened with suspension if she did not comply.

Briley said she had been aware that an assistant principal was dealing with a dress-code issue in which a teacher had complained about a student wearing a "sexually explicit" shirt.

Dress-code violation complaints are common, Briley said, and she had not known of any specifics in Laconne's case until she received the letter from the ACLU.

Briley said she knows the meaning of the T-shirt. The symbol is not "sexually explicit," Briley said.

The principal said she would have let Laconne continue wearing it to school.

Don't you just know, the minute the ACLU sez the magic word "LAWSUIT",
everyone is ready to knuckle under and give in to their demands.

Charles

evangilder · 12-22-2007, 02:56 PM

Unfortunately, school district officials anymore are nothing more than bureaucrats. Sad.

pbfoot · 12-22-2007, 03:12 PM

The ACLU has done some good Bernard scopes comes to mind and they played alarge role in desegragating schools and surprisingly defended Oliver North

ToughOmbre · 12-22-2007, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbfoot

The ACLU has done some good

Have to disagree pb. The ACLU does have a list of "window dressing" cases to make it appear that they are fair and have the best interests of America at heart. But make no mistake, their agenda is to transform the United States into a Godless, secular-progressive, anything goes, legalized drugs, abortion on demand, no one accountable for anything, prevent the country from defending itself from our enemies etc., etc., etc.

And that they would defend NAMBLA's right to put information on the internet on how to rape young children is despicable.

As I've stated before, the ACLU should rot in Hell

If you can't see the ACLU as a danger, then you're not paying attention.

Respectfully,

TO

pbfoot · 12-22-2007, 05:48 PM

I'm not agreeing with their agenda or what they stand for in every case but every place needs a (for lack of other words) a moderating influence . I don't appreciate most of their stands but thats me and I've never been 100% correct . The part of the diddlers make me upset but the part they played in ROE v Wade is not wrong IMHO . I'm aware the latter is very devisive in the US and am not trying to start a debate on that topic. We have a political party up here that is basically of the same stripe I dislike them intensely but they have a place I actually convinced a non voter if I was in the same position in life as they were I would vote for the for the party I disliked , but at least I got them to vote

DOUGRD · 12-23-2007, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToughOmbre

As I've stated before, the ACLU should rot in Hell

If you can't see the ACLU as a danger, then you're not paying attention.
Respectfully,
TO

I couldn't agree with you more!!!

Njaco · 12-23-2007, 05:10 AM

I'm with you TO. NAMBLA, now theres an organization that should join them. Thats all I'm gonna say about those frickin sick bastardos.

and for those on the forum who don't know -

NAMBLA is the North American Man Boy Love Association. They advocate having sex with children as young as it takes.

wilbur1 · 12-23-2007, 09:29 AM

These (groups) need to go away....quietly......

pbfoot · 12-23-2007, 11:05 AM

Come on be reasonable yes they take on cases that are repulsive yet at the same time think about the laws you guys treasure such as search and seizure, stopping religious zealots from preventing the teaching of evolution. As repulsive and off the wall some of their cases might be they are a necessary evil in this world of checks and balances. I went to the ACLU sight to read up on it more and found this little quiz which shows which supreme court guy supports your views I ended up with Justice Souter

ACLU.tv

ToughOmbre · 12-23-2007, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbfoot

As repulsive and off the wall some of their cases might be they are a necessary evil in this world of checks and balances.

Key word pb....evil...and they (the ACLU) are not necessary for any reason.

Long story short, America is a traditional country built on Judeo-Christian values, tenents and beliefs. The ACLU wants to destroy our traditions and transform the USA into a Godless, secular-progressive society.

Over my dead body

TO