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04-19-2006, 01:23 PM
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04-19-2006, 02:00 PM
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| Lesofprimus, There's no way Clay could have put anything in there without being noticed. There were four other men in that gun room. a space about the size of a small bathroom. Even if everyone else was pre occupied, and looking other places, the Rammerman would have had his eyes focused on that tray, and the Gun Captain. There's just no way. I cannot speak to tests performed off-ship. However, from what I saw of the Navy's willingness to overlook facts in favor of a quick, clean explanation that kept the Navy's tit out of the wringer........... | |
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04-19-2006, 05:25 PM
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04-19-2006, 05:36 PM
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Country:  | The Navy was VERY quick in labeling it a suicide, I agree, but without a valid explaination as to why those very specific chemicals were where they werent supposed to be, it will always be a mystery.....
Couple of snapshots.....
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04-19-2006, 05:46 PM
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Country: | How much damage were there to the turret. Thanks les for the pictures.
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04-19-2006, 06:07 PM
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04-19-2006, 07:31 PM
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| The basic structure of the turret is still intact. The armor plate ranges from 6 to 18" thick. The practice round is still squibbed in the barrel. All the soft structures inside are destroyed. All electrics, electronics and hydraulics are gone. The entire turret from the powder mags all the way up to the top is completely sealed. | |
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04-19-2006, 11:09 PM
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04-20-2006, 04:40 PM
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04-20-2006, 08:44 PM
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| The #2 Turret is sealed off. It's considered a Grave site | |
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04-21-2006, 07:58 PM
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Country:  | Hey guys this is Mullahy, I see a lot of inaccuracies for what I heard and what I did that day! Since your using the conversations I heard on the sound powered phones from the magazine and I am also the one as you guys know that lit off the sprinkler systems from DC Central before the Captain gave the order! The Captain was talking to me in DC Central over the 28MC! | |
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09-09-2007, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Camarogenius  The #2 Turret is sealed off. It's considered a Grave site | I have been in there twice since it was sealed to do a re-enactment for the Navy both times it was videoed by the Navy! They also did a semi Re-enactment for the Captain on the USS North Carolina | |
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09-09-2007, 06:40 AM
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09-09-2007, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by lesofprimus I was just putting out the official version of what was found out....
However, I cannot look past this small piece of evidence.... What were those chemicals doing in there??? If theres no valid explaination, somethings afoot.....
And besides, if it was what u said it was, why didnt it happen before, and why couldnt they re-create or duplicate the explosion??? | Actually something similar has happened before. It was on a slightly smaller ship, with 14" guns, and 43 peopler were killed. That was written of to a hot gun cook off. That was during WWII. The name of the ship escapes me at the moment. Quote:
Originally Posted by lesofprimus The Navy was VERY quick in labeling it a suicide, I agree, but without a valid explaination as to why those very specific chemicals were where they werent supposed to be, it will always be a mystery.....
Couple of snapshots..... | In those snapshots, you see the phone talker on the 05 level weather bridge. I was standing to his left and slightly behind him. I had no purpose there, other than watching the shoot. Quote:
Originally Posted by Z5CH2 Hey guys this is Mullahy, I see a lot of inaccuracies for what I heard and what I did that day! Since your using the conversations I heard on the sound powered phones from the magazine and I am also the one as you guys know that lit off the sprinkler systems from DC Central before the Captain gave the order! The Captain was talking to me in DC Central over the 28MC! | Mullahy, your name sounds familiar, but when I close my eyes and try to picture the face, I keep seeing Manacotti. At any rate, I'm PM'ing you my phone number. Gimmie a call. | |
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