Aussie fire trucks responding to fast. - Aircraft of World War II

syscom3 · 03-19-2007, 12:52 AM

Got to be carefull driving those fire trucks.

Watch the trucks arriving at elapsed time of about 1:45

YouTube - House Fire, Queensland Fire Truck Nearly Crashes!

Wildcat · 03-19-2007, 03:17 AM

They're lucky they didn't clean up the other truck!

Emac44 · 03-19-2007, 05:58 AM

I think its childish and the ones that filmed this and put it on You Tube needed an anal labotomy

Matt308 · 03-19-2007, 02:27 PM

Was the guy with the tripod and HiDef camera an civie observer or Queensland FD filming for training purposes? If the former, what a doink!

syscom3 · 03-19-2007, 03:32 PM

It doesnt matter who filmed it or why, the fact remains the two fire trucks nearly collided.

Matt308 · 03-19-2007, 03:35 PM

It was a chinese fire drill all around syscom. The wheel raising was only part of the idiocy.

k9kiwi · 03-19-2007, 04:15 PM

And more than 1 FF was kicked in the butt until his nose was bleeding over it.

Apart from the problematic approach of truck 2, The Firefighters wandering around without helmets, unbuttoned protective clothing and no Breathing Apparatus on was unforgiveable.

Fires are dangerous enough with the right gear, stuffing around like that lot were is just a gaurantee of disaster.

Matt308 · 03-19-2007, 04:19 PM

..and allowing civies to mill about in the middle of the operation...

k9kiwi · 03-20-2007, 05:29 AM

Matt.

Stopping the plonkers is the least of your worries. And if they turn crispy by wandering in the back then OOPS.

Getting the right gear on as you leave the truck to start work is the paramount thing.

The WHOLE crew MUST be done up with Personal Protection Equipment (PPE) this is gloves, helmet, jacket done up with neck flap closed, and putting BA (Breathing Apparatus) on with the mask strap around your neck ready to don it if needed quickly.

Anything less is someone I would never ride with again, trusting as I do the Brothers I ride with now.

Going inside that fire is a matter of team work.

Each truck has 4 people, 2 enter, 2 work outside. the 2 inside stay together, the 2 outside are the officer and the pump operator.

The officer is co-ordinating the scene and setting up for any other arriving units. The pump operator has one job. Pump water to the hose we are using inside.

That structure had the garage fully involved with obvious extension into the roof space and living area beyond.

Partial collapse had occured at the garage, but the rest of the house may have been salvagable with an aggresive attack.

There were no cars inside the garage, and enough locals around to ask if anyone was likely to be home, did you see anyone (hint Officer) asking or talking to the Joe Public??????

There is a shed load of stuff that needs to happen in a short time frame fronting up to a fire, and a good crew will co-ordinate their actions in a focused fashion to make these happen.

No 1 is sticking by the RULES OF SURVIVAL, there are 3.

1. My Crew.
2. Other People.
3. Property.

Only by adhering to these can you raise your odds each and every time you go on a call.

By not wearing their BA, the outside crew minimise 2 Firefighters chances of survival if something goes belly up, a BBQ gas tank blows in the garage, or on the patio from radiant heat etc.

15 seconds to mask up, helmet on and go at the run, as opposed to 50 seconds to don the whole kit (after you grab it from the truck) IS the difference to living in the heat / smoke you see in that video.

This is not a game, and seconds count where lives are concerned in that environment.

Time has an interesting way of telescoping or shrinking, depending on how you are managing the situation.

Getting off to a bad start means you are behind the curve every step of the way from here on in, and someone WILL get hurt.

I have burns and scars to prove it.

I learnt.

PS.

Check the damn batteries in your smoke detectors. If you don't have them get the them TODAY.

Burning is NOT fun.

Screaming Eagle · 03-21-2007, 04:58 AM

Well said kiwi

03-19-2007, 12:52 AM	#1
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,283	Aussie fire trucks responding to fast. Got to be carefull driving those fire trucks. Watch the trucks arriving at elapsed time of about 1:45 YouTube - House Fire, Queensland Fire Truck Nearly Crashes! __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

03-19-2007, 03:17 AM	#2
Wildcat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Queensland Posts: 4,543	They're lucky they didn't clean up the other truck! __________________

03-19-2007, 02:27 PM	#4
Matt308 aka Dickcheese Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 13,386	Was the guy with the tripod and HiDef camera an civie observer or Queensland FD filming for training purposes? If the former, what a doink! __________________ "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the [U.S.] Marines don't have that problem." -- Ronald Reagan Master of Duplicate Posts

03-19-2007, 03:32 PM	#5
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,283	It doesnt matter who filmed it or why, the fact remains the two fire trucks nearly collided. __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

03-19-2007, 03:35 PM	#6
Matt308 aka Dickcheese Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 13,386	It was a chinese fire drill all around syscom. The wheel raising was only part of the idiocy. __________________ "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the [U.S.] Marines don't have that problem." -- Ronald Reagan Master of Duplicate Posts

03-19-2007, 05:58 AM	#3
Emac44 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brisbane Queensland Posts: 1,579	I think its childish and the ones that filmed this and put it on You Tube needed an anal labotomy

03-19-2007, 04:15 PM	#7
k9kiwi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kiwi Land Posts: 850	And more than 1 FF was kicked in the butt until his nose was bleeding over it. Apart from the problematic approach of truck 2, The Firefighters wandering around without helmets, unbuttoned protective clothing and no Breathing Apparatus on was unforgiveable. Fires are dangerous enough with the right gear, stuffing around like that lot were is just a gaurantee of disaster. __________________ 4 out of 5 voices in my head say I am normal. Majority rules. You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.

03-19-2007, 04:19 PM	#8
Matt308 aka Dickcheese Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 13,386	..and allowing civies to mill about in the middle of the operation... __________________ "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the [U.S.] Marines don't have that problem." -- Ronald Reagan Master of Duplicate Posts

03-20-2007, 05:29 AM	#9
k9kiwi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kiwi Land Posts: 850	Matt. Stopping the plonkers is the least of your worries. And if they turn crispy by wandering in the back then OOPS. Getting the right gear on as you leave the truck to start work is the paramount thing. The WHOLE crew MUST be done up with Personal Protection Equipment (PPE) this is gloves, helmet, jacket done up with neck flap closed, and putting BA (Breathing Apparatus) on with the mask strap around your neck ready to don it if needed quickly. Anything less is someone I would never ride with again, trusting as I do the Brothers I ride with now. Going inside that fire is a matter of team work. Each truck has 4 people, 2 enter, 2 work outside. the 2 inside stay together, the 2 outside are the officer and the pump operator. The officer is co-ordinating the scene and setting up for any other arriving units. The pump operator has one job. Pump water to the hose we are using inside. That structure had the garage fully involved with obvious extension into the roof space and living area beyond. Partial collapse had occured at the garage, but the rest of the house may have been salvagable with an aggresive attack. There were no cars inside the garage, and enough locals around to ask if anyone was likely to be home, did you see anyone (hint Officer) asking or talking to the Joe Public?????? There is a shed load of stuff that needs to happen in a short time frame fronting up to a fire, and a good crew will co-ordinate their actions in a focused fashion to make these happen. No 1 is sticking by the RULES OF SURVIVAL, there are 3. 1. My Crew. 2. Other People. 3. Property. Only by adhering to these can you raise your odds each and every time you go on a call. By not wearing their BA, the outside crew minimise 2 Firefighters chances of survival if something goes belly up, a BBQ gas tank blows in the garage, or on the patio from radiant heat etc. 15 seconds to mask up, helmet on and go at the run, as opposed to 50 seconds to don the whole kit (after you grab it from the truck) IS the difference to living in the heat / smoke you see in that video. This is not a game, and seconds count where lives are concerned in that environment. Time has an interesting way of telescoping or shrinking, depending on how you are managing the situation. Getting off to a bad start means you are behind the curve every step of the way from here on in, and someone WILL get hurt. I have burns and scars to prove it. I learnt. PS. Check the damn batteries in your smoke detectors. If you don't have them get the them TODAY. Burning is NOT fun. __________________ 4 out of 5 voices in my head say I am normal. Majority rules. You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me. Last edited by k9kiwi; 03-20-2007 at 05:31 AM.

03-21-2007, 04:58 AM	#10
Screaming Eagle Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 3,552	Well said kiwi __________________ "Success is nothing more than taking advantage of an opportunity." - Hitman! - The Technical Guide for the Independent Contractor.

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