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08-14-2005, 12:47 PM
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| Aviation News: Boeing 737 crashed by unclear causes
A Boeing 737, marked ZU522 of Cypriot Helios Airlines with 121 people onboard on its way from Cyprus to Prague had crashed by unclear causes northern from Greek capital Athinai. There were 80 kids on board, totally 115 passengers and 6 crew members. Nobody survived.
Two Greek F-16 were send to observe the situation, one of the pilot was lying on the instrument panel, the other one wasn't in the cabin at all, reported the fighter pilots. The most probably reason is a malfunction of air-condition. According to an SMS message sent from one of the passangers, the people were freezeing to death.
Original new from CNN.com: A Cypriot jet carrying 121 people hit a mountain north of Marathon, Greece, today according to government officials who say there are no survivors. Greek F-16s had been scrambled to intercept the plane when it failed to respond to air traffic controllers. The F-16 pilots said one pilot was slumped over the controls and they could see through the cabin windows that the oxygen masks had dropped.  | 
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08-14-2005, 01:23 PM
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Country:  | Heard the news too - Tragic! Seem like a pressurization failure. A Lear Jet crashed here a few years ago after flying half way across the US. It killed a famous professional golfer. A "outflow valve" failed on that one.
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08-14-2005, 02:44 PM
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| In know, a golfer Stuart and it was somewhere in Dakota, right? | |
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08-14-2005, 06:26 PM
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Country:  | Holy crap! That's too bad! What the hell could have happened to cause it I wonder?  | |
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08-14-2005, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Pisis In know, a golfer Stuart and it was somewhere in Dakota, right? | Yep - South Dakota - hell of a way to go!
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08-15-2005, 12:13 AM
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Country:  | Last I heard was maintenance/repairs on the Pressurisation system had been carried out in the previous week. | |
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08-15-2005, 12:41 AM
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Country:  | It's really strange, the amount of air crashes of large airliners has increased over the past few months. There's been loads for the number that happened have happened in the past decade. There's been the Canada one, the Sicily one and this one in what? 3 weeks?
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08-15-2005, 06:41 AM
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| There was an interview with one of the Czech passengers who flew with these AL recently and he said that their planes are in terrible condition... That he went from Cyprus to Prague and they were supposed to fly with some type of aircraft but for a technical failure, totally another one came for them... | |
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08-15-2005, 08:48 AM
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08-15-2005, 09:01 AM
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Country: | Thanks for the link. What a damn shame.
BTW, nice bit of site swapping there. Posting a link here to there, and vice versa.  | |
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08-15-2005, 09:25 AM
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| Yeah, thanks. SimHQ is my oldest home-forum, forum for the EAW. | |
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08-17-2005, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Pisis There was an interview with one of the Czech passengers who flew with these AL recently and he said that their planes are in terrible condition... That he went from Cyprus to Prague and they were supposed to fly with some type of aircraft but for a technical failure, totally another one came for them... | I've seen some pretty scary stuff when I worked on airliners. We did a lot of DC-9 and 737 work. One of the best "foreign" operators I've dealt with as far as maintenance is concerned was Finnair. I worked on 2 of their older DC-9s, these aircraft were spotless. The worse I seen was COPA - Costa Rican airlines. They had floor boards so corroded you could cave them in by stomping on them.....
The worse US operator - US Airways. Their planes were crap, had loads of FOD left behind by mechanics......
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08-17-2005, 09:50 AM
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| Did you work with ČSA (Czech Aerolines)? 
I flew with them many times and I think they're pretty fine. | |
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08-17-2005, 05:37 PM
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Country: | Never worked on them, but I will tell you one thing - I worked on a lot of east bloc aircraft imported into the US. The Russian stuff was crap, badly maintained, crappy repairs, it always took a lot of work to restore them. The Czech stuff was a lot better maintained. If Czech military maintainers took care of their stuff, I'm sure CSA does the same.
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08-17-2005, 07:34 PM
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Country: | Civil aviators are much slacker than military ones in this country. My dad being an ex-RAF technician finds the people working on airliners at Doncaster terrible. But he always has found the civil aviators here appalling.
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