 | Britishness| OFF-Topic / Misc. Discuss Britishness in the Current forums; Originally Posted by Marcel
Ah well, classier is very generally said. I've met some classy Americans (yes I really ... |
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09-26-2007, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Ah well, classier is very generally said. I've met some classy Americans (yes I really have  ) and British tourists are notorious here in Europe for their manners and drinking, no offence as this is just a general feeling here, in reality it's probably a small minority.
But why do you think all this is better left unsaid when it is only an expression of a point of view, TO? You probably think the US is the greatest country in the world (I'm assuming here) and right you should as it's your country. That's not a fact (well, maybe for Americans  ), but a point of view. | Marcel,
First of all, you're correct, I do think that, as an American, the USA is the greatest country in the world. And I would hope that the citizens of other countries feel the same way about their respective nations. But you will never see me come on this forum and say "My country is greater than your country". My problem was with the following quote by SoD "They are much classier than Americans". That is what can be left unsaid. IMO Brits and Americans are BOTH classy. My major point is that a compliment can be made to a certain group (in this case the Brits) without reflecting negatively on another (Americans).
Hope this makes some sense. I can't say it any clearer.
Respectfully,
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09-26-2007, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ToughOmbre Marcel,
First of all, you're correct, I do think that, as an American, the USA is the greatest country in the world. And I would hope that the citizens of other countries feel the same way about their respective nations. But you will never see me come on this forum and say "My country is greater than your country". My problem was with the following quote by SoD "They are much classier than Americans". That is what can be left unsaid. IMO Brits and Americans are BOTH classy. My major point is that a compliment can be made to a certain group (in this case the Brits) without reflecting negatively on another (Americans).
Hope this makes some sense. I can't say it any clearer.
Respectfully,
TO | It does TO. You mean if he'd said something like "I think the British are very classy" it would have been better and that's probably what was meant.
By the way, I believe The Netherlands is the greatest country in the world. Unfortunately, it's only a small minority thinking the same 
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09-26-2007, 03:06 PM
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Just curious...have you visited England recently?
Talk about the Chav invasion; also you might witness Cockneys and other London specimens happily engaged in sexual activity in back alleys, yes, by the side of garbage containers possibly with rats as companions, also sex in parks at night; it is as common as salt and pepper on the table.
I do not recall seeing anything like this in cities like New York, Boston, Chicago, Phoenix or Dallas.
Also Elton John is a Knight...what a disgrace...iŽd like to know the opinion of Sir Francis Drake on this particular matter.
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09-26-2007, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Udet SoD: Also Elton John is a Knight...what a disgrace...iŽd like to know the opinion of Sir Francis Drake on this particular matter. | He'd say  !!!
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09-26-2007, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Udet SoD:
Just curious...have you visited England recently?
Talk about the Chav invasion; also you might witness Cockneys and other London specimens happily engaged in sexual activity in back alleys, yes, by the side of garbage containers possibly with rats as companions, also sex in parks at night; it is as common as salt and pepper on the table.
I do not recall seeing anything like this in cities like New York, Boston, Chicago, Phoenix or Dallas.
Also Elton John is a Knight...what a disgrace...iŽd like to know the opinion of Sir Francis Drake on this particular matter. | No, I have not been to the British Isles in about 15 years; I guess things have changed since then. I don't remember seeing anything like that when I was in Kensington.
TO & Marcel: You are correct; it probably would've been better if I hadn't compared the British to anybody else, let alone Americans. But I am an American so, in a way, I was insulting myself. I had not intended to insult my fellow Americans, but apparently I have. For that, I apologize, no insult was intended. |
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09-26-2007, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SoD Stitch NI had not intended to insult my fellow Americans, but apparently I have. For that, I apologize, no insult was intended. | I thought I'd get flak for calling Blair a "Bush Stroking lackey"
You kept people busy... Thanks for the deflection!
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09-26-2007, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by comiso90 I thought I'd get flak for calling Blair a "Bush Stroking lackey"
You kept people busy... Thanks for the deflection!
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09-26-2007, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by comiso90 I thought I'd get flak for calling Blair a "Bush Stroking lackey"
You kept people busy... Thanks for the deflection!
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09-26-2007, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Well, he is!  | He was
The Elton John thing was based on the Princess Di song he did. |
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09-26-2007, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Udet I do not recall seeing anything like this in cities like New York, Boston, Chicago, Phoenix or Dallas.
| Then you have not been looking...
London and other large cities in England are no different than any cities anywhere else in the world.
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09-26-2007, 06:51 PM
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09-26-2007, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SoD Stitch Yes, it is definitely a matter of opinion, I never stated otherwise (I don't think); and, yes, I am happy here, I still feel the US is the greatest country on earth (even with all of it's problems).
As for when I'm moving, probably never; but a guy can dream, can't he? | Just out of curiosity - why couldn't you move there? It's perfectly possible...
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09-26-2007, 07:00 PM
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09-26-2007, 11:40 PM
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09-27-2007, 02:14 AM
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This is purely caused by cultural differences, up till now for my own part I have never been to any country that does not display the full gambit from total arseholes to great people, and from wonderful sites to real dumps its the way of the world and as far as I'm concerned it would be a really boring existence if we were all the same.
Over all I have found 99% of people have the same goals in life and the little digs we have at each other are very superficial (our British teeth are improving by the way, hows your US obesity). Some go a bit over the top but thats what freedom of speech will throw up once in a while.
I will just add that although travel (mainly flight) has improved the average persons own knowledge of other nations. IMO it has made for very eclectic nations with large immigrant sections and this huge variety of ethnic diversity has watered down the original and unique flavour of most nations which I think is a shame. |
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