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10-18-2007, 03:35 PM
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#91 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Don't be downhearted renrich. I don't agree. I think the US is still a country you can be proud of. Unlike you I don't think left wing politicics will ruin your country. I'm neither left nor right, but I think my country benefits from both influences, left and right. For many years, the socialist's party has been one of the biggest parties here and still I think my country is worth to be proud off. Left right, it always goes in waves, one time this, the other time that, in the end you should benefit from the best of all viewpoints. That's democracy, my friend.
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10-18-2007, 03:55 PM
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#92 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Interesting thread.....
Just a few things..
Me (and my family and friends) have got good teeth
I dont like the Royals (or Chavs)
There are some great people in this country and there are some dickheads..
There are some great places and there are some sh** holes...
If any of you want to visit ..come to Duxford or some such place and we can meet for a laugh and a drink.. | |
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10-18-2007, 04:04 PM
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#93 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | I think that everyone is more alike than we care to admit. I lift my glass to new friends on this net. May we all meet one day at a great airshow.
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10-18-2007, 04:30 PM
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Country: | Marcel, with all due respect to you and your beliefs and opinions, I suspect that your idea of socialism and mine would not coincide. In other words, certain government functions you take for granted as necessary and proper I would denounce as pure collectivism. Be that as it may, our government in the US is and always has been drifting left. There is no ebb and flow. There are sometimes temporary slowdowns in our march to a socialistic state but we are steadily getting there. That is not to say that we don't have a great country. The fact that many people from all over the world want to come and live here proves that. Democracy is I believe the best form of government ever devised but it carries the seed of it's own destruction within it. Without a good, honest and enlightened electorate the people in a democracy will inevitably elect to office the politicians who promise them the most largesse. The only factor that has slowed our political move to the left is that the enlightened in our society tend to vote in higher numbers proportionately than do the unenlightened. Ironically FDR made a statement once when he was chided about his trust in Joseph Stalin. He said that in the long run we would become more like the Soviets and they would become more like us. They now have McDonalds just like we do. | |
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10-18-2007, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DBII  I think that everyone is more alike than we care to admit. I lift my glass to new friends on this net. May we all meet one day at a great airshow.
DBII | Amen to that.....
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10-18-2007, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by renrich Marcel, with all due respect to you and your beliefs and opinions, I suspect that your idea of socialism and mine would not coincide. In other words, certain government functions you take for granted as necessary and proper I would denounce as pure collectivism. | Very true, I think we debated this in another thread before.
But I still disagree on your statement that your country is loosing greatness.
You do have a great country, independend of whatever government you have at the time. I've been there several times and I liked it.
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10-19-2007, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Very true, I think we debated this in another thread before.
But I still disagree on your statement that your country is loosing greatness.
You do have a great country, independend of whatever government you have at the time. I've been there several times and I liked it. | Perhaps this fodder for another thread but i believe that the information age is neutralizing many national identities. My country is great but the post WW2 wave it has been riding is waining. Great empires used to take centuries to decay... I fear that now great ideals may be outshouted in decades.
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10-19-2007, 06:17 AM
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#98 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by CRASHGATE3 Interesting thread.....
Just a few things..
Me (and my family and friends) have got good teeth
I dont like the Royals (or Chavs)
There are some great people in this country and there are some dickheads..
There are some great places and there are some sh** holes...
If any of you want to visit ..come to Duxford or some such place and we can meet for a laugh and a drink.. | You just described most countries on this planet. 
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10-19-2007, 06:36 AM
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Country: | I live in the recently voted 15th worst place to live in Britain, the H.I.V capital of Western Europe and once the heroin centre of Western Europe...
I love Britain. 
The great things of Britain are mostly in past - we used to be the greatest engineers in the world; the industrial revolution started with us; we've stood up against several maniacs throughout the centuries (Louis XIV, Napoleon, Hitler) and never given up; we ruled the oceans; we had the largest Empire in history...and I could go on. I don't know where this idea of bad food comes from; we eat EVERYTHING in Britain - all the worlds food is here, if you want to try it. And don't tell me our sunday lunch is bad.
But now we're run by PC freaks, immigrants, leeches and druggies. This place is in constant decline and the worst thing about it is that people actually believe its getting better. The crime rate is rising and most people don't even report it because nothing will get done; so Brown tells us all that it's going down ! The justice system is all wrong, the immigration policy is all wrong, benefits system is all wrong - it's all wrong !
Unfortunately for me, I refuse to abandon it to the f*ckin' Sultan and the piss-ant Moors!
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10-19-2007, 01:35 PM
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Country: | Well said Comis but I call it the misinformation age. Plan D I understand your grief and rage at the path your home country is taking. My country has fallen directly into a trail position behind your country. I fear the only thing that can help us straighten out is some sort of catastrophe much much worse than 9-11, on the order of WW2. | |
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10-19-2007, 02:39 PM
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Country:  | Lesofprimus for President and PlanD for Prime Minister??
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10-19-2007, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 Lesofprimus for President and PlanD for Prime Minister?? | I'll vote Lucky for president 
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10-19-2007, 06:00 PM
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#103 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Can we include the Irish in this?
I have allways loved drinking with the Irish. Tonight I went down to the local Pub with my wife and there were a bunch of Irish in there. Had a merry time drinking Kilkenny, Guiness and Bush Mills and singing Irish Drinking Songs about the IRA!
A merry time was had by all and dont forget the Whiskey in the Jarr-ooooooo! 
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10-19-2007, 06:34 PM
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Country: | The difference is the IRA drinking songs.
Can't imagine many Brits joining in. | |
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10-19-2007, 06:37 PM
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#105 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Ah it was all in jest and fun.
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