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01-13-2008, 11:15 AM
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01-13-2008, 11:26 AM
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01-13-2008, 11:26 AM
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01-13-2008, 11:39 AM
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01-13-2008, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by lesofprimus I'd rather be an Honorary Meatball than an Englishman.... I like my teeth the way they are, thank u very much...
Also, Im not into sexual relations with my family tree or farm animals, so it kinda rules me out in the first place....... | English Heritage,Over 1000 years. US 300 years
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01-13-2008, 12:31 PM
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#66 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | My lineage, on BOTH sides of my family tree, are recorded in the logbooks of the Mayflower and the Jamestown Settlement.... I can trace my heritage back to Scottish and Dutch Royalty....
I could care little for the 1000 years of English Tyranny....
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01-13-2008, 06:19 PM
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Country: | English history goes back further than a thousand years.
Julius Ceaser landed in England in 55 bc...
That 2063 years ago. So got the Romans and the Saxons and the Vikings and the Normans.
Although England wasn't England until the invasion of the Saxons...which were Germanic tribes.
History is a thing of mine. |
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01-13-2008, 06:42 PM
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Country: | The history of the British Isles extends further back than August 55 BC, when Caeser landed five legions north-east of modern day Dover. It's said to extend to the times of Ancient Greece, but unfortunately there's no written records - only their artifacts left in the ground.
You'll find that England did not become England until approx. 450 AD when the Angles from modern Denmark invaded the British Isles. While the Saxons came over at a similar time from their homeland in northern Germany; the name of England comes from the Angles i.e. Angle-Land or Angland (England).
The history of the United States of America began with the first discovery of the east coast of modern U.S by white man; it developed from then to their independance on 18th August, 1776. You could go so far as to say North Americas history in European writings starts when Erik the Red landed in Newfoundland in the 12th Century.
No matter what anyone thinks of England - it's had the largest affect on this world; the fourth English Empire brought the industrial revolution to the globe, it introduced the railway to Asia and Africa, gave birth to the U.S, fought against many a dictator, stood up against many hardships through its history. Despite the fact I despise the government of this nation today, I'm still damn proud of being English.
And it's the English Empire in my eyes, the Scottish and Welsh were conquered just as much as any other place. Scotland was forced into the union in 1707.
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01-13-2008, 06:54 PM
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Country: | The Saxons were the biggest so therefore the most powerful.
Yes English history pre dates the Romans but not written so difficult to be accurate.
The idea that history only goes a thousand years misses Alfred the Great...a true hero...and one of the very few English Kings England has had.
Odd to think that the Viking raiders had such a huge part to play in English history and still do even today. |
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01-13-2008, 07:17 PM
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Country: | "The Saxons were the biggest so therefore the most powerful."
That gives no excuse to miss off the Angles who gave England its name.
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01-14-2008, 05:42 AM
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Country: | PlanD, don't you forget viking Leif Eriksson. ... L'Anse Aux Meadows on the tip of the Great Northern Peninsula of island of Newfoundland in Canada in the year of the Lord 1000....
Did you know that Normandy and Normans get their names from the vikings that settled there...Norseman/Norsemen....
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01-14-2008, 08:23 AM
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Country: | Yes, I was aware of that. The Vikings raided all of Europe, not just the British Isles. The Swedish and Norweigan Vikings mainly entered the Irish Sea and attack Ireland; while the Danish Vikings were most responsable for the east coast of the British Isles and Northern France. What is little known is the fact that the people that inhabitated "England" at the time were of the same stock as the Vikings, they worshipped similar gods and had the same methods of raising an army.
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01-14-2008, 08:56 AM
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Country: | They also founded Russia....
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01-14-2008, 09:42 AM
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Country: | England is an ethnic mix of vikings and anglo saxons and other Germanic tribes.
The roman, Celt and Norman/French mix is very small.
So we are Germanic/scandanavian in blood. The Danish vikings were too DNA close to be distinguished from the Germanics but the Norway Vikings were different enough.
We have so much common blood with modern day Belgium and Northern Germany...a very scary thought. Our Queen and Royal Family are German too...
Historians have tried to make the Vikings look nice with their farming and sea voyages...but Bar Stewards they were and Bar Stewards they still. The Saxons weren't much nicer either. |
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01-14-2008, 09:55 AM
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Country: | They were as nice as a furious bull on the rampage....  A lot of names are still around from the Vikings as well....in the UK. McCloud is Norwegian...
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