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01-14-2008, 02:34 PM
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Country:  | Man I went through all that trouble to really make my above post really insulting, and not a single one of u fu*kers went for it...
Im disapointed in all my English friends...
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01-14-2008, 04:40 PM
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Country: | Thats alright, I was waiting for the torrent of put downs after my Mississippi point. 
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01-14-2008, 05:01 PM
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#78 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | I am forced to live here, so all jabs are appreciated...
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01-15-2008, 08:46 AM
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Country:  | The Vikings did not found Russia, there was already the tribe Rus in modern day western Russia. The Vikings sailed up to modern ArchAngelsk.
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01-15-2008, 09:22 AM
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Country:  | According to the Russian Primary Chronicle (ca. 1040-1118 AD), the Rus were a group of "Varangians," possibly of Swedish origin, who had a leader named Rurik. Rus appears to be derived from the Finnish word for Sweden, *Rotsi, later Ruotsi, which in turn comes from Old Swedish rother, a word associated with rowing or ships, so that rothskarlar meant "rowers" or "seamen."
"6370 (862 BC) ...Discord thus ensued among them, and they began to war one against another. They said to themselves, 'Let us seek a prince who may rule over us, and judge us according to the law.' They accordingly went overseas to the Varangian Rus: these particular Varangians were known as Rus, just as some are called Swedes, and others Normans, Angles, and Goths, for they were thus named. The Chuds, the Slavs, and the Krivichians then said to the people of Rus: 'Our whole land is great and rich, but there is nor order in it. Come to rule and reign over us.' They thus selected three brothers, with their kinfolk, who took with them all the Rus, and migrated. The oldest, Rurik, located himself in Novgorod; the second, Sinaeus, in Beloozero; and the third, Truvor, in Izborsk. On account of these Varangians, the district of Novgorod became known as Russian (Rus) land. The present inhabitants of Novgorod are descended from the Varangian race, but aforetime they were Slavs." (Russian Primary Chronicle)
The Vikings settled coastal areas along the Baltic Sea, and along inland rivers in Russian territories such as Staraya Ladoga, Novgorod and along major waterways to the Byzantine empire.
The Varangians or Varyags (Russian, Ukrainian: Варяги, Varyagi) sometimes referred to as Variagians were Scandinavians who migrated eastwards and southwards through what is now Russia, Belarus and Ukraine mainly in the 9th and 10th centuries. Engaging in trade, piracy and mercenary activities, they roamed the river systems and portages of Gardariki, reaching the Caspian Sea and Constantinople.
But.....I think we're slighty off topic here...
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01-15-2008, 09:23 AM
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Country: | Was not the Tartars there before the Rus?
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01-15-2008, 10:36 AM
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Country: | Stonehenge is pretty old...
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01-15-2008, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Clave  Stonehenge is pretty old... | Yeah but they druid/Celts type.
Not English.
The Anglo-Saxon settlers who made their way over to Britain after the fall of the Roman Empire around AD 410 were the first ethnic English.
At this time, the Jutes and the Frisians from Denmark were also settling in the British Isles, but the Anglo-Saxon settlers spoke their own language, which gave rise to the English spoken today.
The Anglo-Saxon period lasted for 600 years, from 410 to 1066.
The first Viking raid on the UK is said to be 787...we even had Viking kings.
So we kinda have British history which includes the Celts and the Romans and then English history which begins after the Romans go home and the invaders come in.
The legendary King Arthur was about 500 AD and he was believed to be a Roman-Celt King who came from Cornwall and fought the Anglo-saxons to a standstill saving the southwest of England.
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01-15-2008, 11:19 AM
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01-15-2008, 12:28 PM
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01-15-2008, 12:28 PM
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Country: | What you doing in Scotland Lucky...The Scots are not the best referees when it comes to England and english history. | |
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01-15-2008, 12:32 PM
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01-15-2008, 01:04 PM
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Country: | Ok, I took the test. It was a good news bad news thing. I am glad to report that I have rejected all things Anglo-Saxxon. The bad news is the site thinks I am French.
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01-15-2008, 01:05 PM
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Here is what it said about me:
"There is some corner of cyberspace that is forever England, and that part is you. Reserved yet fiercely jingoistic, you believe the globe should still be coloured pink but are too polite to say so."
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01-15-2008, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by The Basket What you doing in Scotland Lucky...The Scots are not the best referees when it comes to England and english history. | My ex was/is from Glasgow...I decided to stay after we broke up, since I like the country and the people...and WE SHALL RISE AGAINST THE TYRANNY AGAIN.....!! 
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